Minneapolis officer's attorney alleges George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl, says charges should be dr

The key words here are 'beyond a reasonable doubt', Floyd's health and drug abuse make any chance of a conviction impossible. They should wait until November 3rd and then drop the charges and quietly release these officers with some huge payouts for unfair dismissal.

 

Correct but the defense medical expert will discuss the lack of injuries and emphasize the multiple other issues contributing to Floyd's death. They will question whether it can be substantiated that the officer's actions were the actual cause of death as Floyd was already in serious distress when they laid him on the ground. Should make for good television.

 

At some point you have self-liability for resisting arrest. The police aren't psychic, nor are they doctors.

They should get off with perhaps a minor violation.

 

And the defense will have a field day showing reasonable doubt, as I said he was going into a cardiopulmonary arrest BEFORE he was even on the ground due to all the things already listed, no medical expert can reasonably claim that the knee to the neck was the sole cause of death ignoring the obvious lethal dose of fentynal, the meth and his existing heart condition and the sequence of events that led to his death.

 

If he was about to go into cardiopulmonary arrest, then it is the duty of the officers to act as first responders and provide medical assistance. Choosing instead to apply pressure on the subject’s body and neck for several minutes, even after they fall unconscious is gross negligence to the point of potentially being criminal

On top of this, you have the analysis of every medical expert who was been hired to study the cause of death ruling that the officers’ actions was in fact the cause of death.

 

The defense will have a field day with the autopsy and notes showing there is more reason to believe he was already a dead man before he hit the ground and would have died had that not happened at all.

 

What part of the autopsy indicated that?

 

The video's confirm it, the transcripts confirm it along what has already been listed, the defense will have a field day with it.

 

What part of the autopsy are you referring to?

 

In it's entirity along with the videos and transcripts. The defense will have a field day.

 

That doesn’t answer my question, what part of the autopsy were you referring that suggests he was already a dead man?

 

I have answered several times in total and not just the autopsy I have no obligation to repeat myself, the defense will have a field day.

 

Apparently his records were illegally accessed:

https://www.kare11.com/article/news...topsy/89-a4fbb1b6-bf06-401b-946d-2ed046f409dd

 

Can you refer me to the post where you supposedly listed where the autopsy suggests he was dead before he was on the ground?

If you did answer the question, I certainly don't see it. In fact I haven't seen you refer to any medical experts who support such a notion

 

I have no obligation to hold your hand and repeat myself, the autopsy it toto with the notes and the videos..............the defense will have a field day bringing in a VERY reasonable doubt.

 

Repeat yourself? I don’t believe you were ever able to even once refer to any part of the autopsy which would suggest he was already a dead man, and everyone in this thread can see that

 

I guess the debate is over:

 

Isn't it terrible that people can think what they see with their own eyes is more valid than science?

 

The pulmonary edema that caused his lungs to be 2-3 times what they should have weighed.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cou...yd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/

 

Nope, the autopsy does not say he died from pulmonary edema, the article you linked (which is not a transcript or quote from the autopsy) does say fentanyl can potentially cause pulmonary edema, however if Floyd had actually experienced pulmonary edema there would have been apparent edema fluid buildup found in the autopsy, which there was not.

 

What do you think this means?

RESPIRATORY SYSTEM:

The right and left lungs weigh 1085 and 1015g, respectively. The external surfaces are pink only on the most anterior aspects, and deep red-purple in all other areas. The pulmonary parenchyma is diffusely congested and edematous

 

That's a portion of the paragraph, what that paragraph of the autopsy actually said was this

The fact that you even attempted to quote the part of the autopsy on the respiratory system without providing the full paragraph is very telling. Furthermore, what exactly do you think diffusely congested means?

Aside from all this, we have a cause of death in the autopsy, and it is not pulmonary edema, there is nothing in the autopsy to suggest such notion

 

That's because I quoted the only relevant section.

No thromboemboli means there were no blood clots.

The tracheobronchial tree is simply the main pathways to the actual part of the lungs that process oxygen into the blood,

The pulmonary parenchyma, which includes the alveoli, alveolar ducts and respiratory bronchioles is the portion of the lungs that process the gasses you breathe.

The portion of the lungs that had widespread congestion and edema.

Sure, nothing in the autopsy to indicate pulmonary edema other than edema in his pulmonary system noted in the autopsy.

Symptoms of the pulmonary edema that you say doesn't exist and is right there in black and white in the autopsy?

shortness of breath, difficulty breathing when lying flat, waking up breathless, and requiring multiple pillows to raise the head at night for a comfortable sleep.

Sounds familiar.

What causes pulmonary edema? Heart problems. Did he have any heart problems? Why yes, he had a lot of them.

Yes, we know the cause of death.

Asphyxiation.

Can you breathe with your lungs full of fluid?

The defense is going to have a field day.

 

And the fact that the cop's job at that moment was to subdue a large man jacked up on meth and fentanyl be damned? Not considered at all? Ever had to deal with such a person?

Floyd's own actions greatly contributed to his death, and I resent the media causing me to feel so much sympathy for him (still have some but not like before I realized the drugs were in his system).

 

if he gets off that would be sad, that video shows it for what it was