Excess Deaths

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The "judge" is an inexperienced recent appointee by your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief that just regurgitated the PARTISAN bovine excrement.

    So it is NOT a "fact" but rather the RESULT of the CORRUPTION that has INFESTED the GOP that is bringing our nation to it's knees.
     
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    Another member of the choir chimes in. We most certainly have the government we deserve, as "citizens" applaud the usurpation of power by elected leaders. Yes DT, you show us how liberty dies to thunderous applause.
     
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    Your conspiracy translator is shorting out. ;)
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are unable to discern conspiracy from the rule of law, typical for such a choir leader.
     
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    Kindly refrain from PROJECTING your own issues onto others.
     
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    This from the "Plandemic/Scamdemic" guy
     
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    I'm not projecting anything onto anybody. I am merely reading your posts and interpreting what they say. So far this morning you've rejected constitutional principles and the judge who has defended them. It's not rocket science.

    That you must rationalize that I am projecting demonstrates you are aware of your awkward position.
     
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    Why are you ignoring the fact that the other 94% also have COVID-19 - the only difference being that (unlike the 6%) they have comordities.

    It really doesn't add to the credibility of anything you have to say when clearly, you either don't understand the data or choose to ignore it because it doesn't support your narrative.
     
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    Your post is misleading at best, dishonest at worst.

    Sort of like pointing out the increase in US firearm deaths in 1942 without accounting for WW-2.

    Now go back to your Trumpulator and account for:
    Less traffic during the Apr-Oct timeframe
    Fewer DUI accidents during the period
    Bars closed

    And...Carry the 1. LOOK AT THAT. You're wrong. Whoda thunk it?!?!?!
     
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    I dare you to RESEARCH that judge and PROVIDE his "qualifications" for rendering his PARTISAN drivel ruling.
     
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    And most importantly compare the period in which the covid deaths OCCURRED against similar time periods in previous years
     
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    Nonsense.

    COVID-19 triggers several other conditions that lead to death, responsible for the other 55% of deaths but not shown in this table.

    That particular table is focused on pneumonia/influenza only, including cases where COVID-19 is not present, for comparative surveillance purposes.
     
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    "Only Covid"?

    COVID-19 has no capacity to kill all by itself. What kills you is the medical conditions it triggers, which may or may not include pneumonia.
     
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    Did you know that cancer is not a cause of death? It's not the cancer that kills you, it is the effect it has on healthy organs that lead to death. So your question is nonsense
     
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    Lol....
     
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    So then is this an acknowledgement that the number of deaths reported as COVID deaths is highly inflated?
     
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    Only if you live in backwards world
     
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    So you don't actually know. Why don't you explain how cancer kills you?
     
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    Lol... no one dies from cancer.... lol.

    It’s like no one dies by jumping off a tall building. The sudden stop at the end is what causes their death.
     
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    No, not at all.

    YOU SAID (in response to Lesh): So, what would have killed you? Pneumonia or only COVID?

    I'm explaining that there's no such thing as "only COVID" - or everyone who tested positive would be dead.

    COVID-19 causes life-threatening conditions, including pneumonia - it's these changes which kill. And, because these conditions were caused by COVID-19, they are counted as a COVID-19 death.

    This is what the number of deaths is made up of - people who died of conditions caused by COVID-19.

    For instance: COVID-19 ---> Pneumonia ---> Acute respiratory distress syndrome.

    COVID-19 triggers different conditions in different people. It triggers pnemonia in about 45% of fatal cases.

    So no, the number is not inflated. It just seems so because you're looking at a chart comparing COVID-19, pneumonia and influenza for general surveillance purposes, many of whom did not have or die from COVID-19, as should be clear from the total number of people in that chart - 329,428.

    Obviously it's possible to die of pneumonia without COVID-19, but this would not be counted as a COVID-19 death.
     
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    Don't see your explanation on how cancer causes death. So back to your nonsense question, "So, what would have killed you? Pneumonia or only COVID?"
     
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    Dying with Covid is not the same as dying from Covid.
     
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    If one actually believes no one dies from cancer, that person would not understand the explanation.
     

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