Florida company warns employees they may lose jobs if Biden is elected.

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the CEO of an expense tracking software company sent an email to all of his customers telling them he thinks Trump is a threat to democracy and that they should vote for Biden. Company employees were invited to weigh in on the decision to send the email before a small group of top-tier executives voted to send the email.

    Would an employ who is a Trump, or Jorgensen, or any non-Biden supporter be reasonably intimated in the workplace after having their CEO communicate to all customers that their preferred candidate is going to unravel democracy?
     
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    Did they threaten to throw people out of the union if Biden lost?

    Try again. I mean, c'mon man! You people are the experts at voter intimidation. I'm pretty sure if a similar threat had been made regarding biden Barr would have had them kicking down the doors. If you guys can't stand loong at the flip side perhaps you should stay away from the coin jar.
     
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    Uh, what?
    Union endorsement is part of politics. The members are not employees of the unions. The union doesn't have the capacity to retaliate against the members. It's like a club. If a club says "we endorse Coca-Cola rather than Pepsi; we find it tastier so we want our nice members to heed this advice so that they enjoy themselves more" it is very different from an employer saying to employees "if you all drink Pepsi you'll lose your jobs; must drink Coca-Cola to keep your jobs." The first one is an advice. The second one is a threat.
     
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    Depends.
    Are there communications clearly indicating some retaliation should an employee NOT participate? Your post does not say anything toward this line so intimidation would be tough to charge.

    Political activism is not intimidation.
     
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    Yeah, if this has happened, that's wrong too. Two wrongs don't make a right. Oh wait, he sent this to customers, not employees? I read it too fast. No, it's not the same.

    The only consequence here is that some of his customers may take their business elsewhere. It's very different from an employee losing his/her job.
     
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    Political activism is more intimidating than sending out a letter saying that Democrats are threatening to reverse Trump's tax cuts and that payroll will have to be scaled back if that happens.
     
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    Why don't you bring those goalposts back and try again.
     
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    Yea we heard all that doom and gloom regarding the ACA TEN years ago...and it didn't happen
     
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    So if your employer decided to become a pro-Trump activist and sent a letter to all of your company's customers, you wouldn't feel the least bit intimidated because your are pro-Biden? Maybe if you didn't get the next promotion, but a Trump supporter did, you might be cynical that there was a political motivation for advancement?
     
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    We might be forced to start laying people regardless of how each individual employee votes which we don't know and never will, if the election result in our opinion leads to a bad economic/business climate - this is as far from intimidation as you can possibly get. It's business transparency, it is absolutely unassailable in court, this will be thrown out of it with prejudice and the judge will be mad.

    It's nice that you read and quoted the statute, it would be even nicer if you had even the vaguest comprehension as to when it does and when it does not apply LOL
     
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    Employment grew during every month of the Obama and Clinton administrations.
    Employment crashed to record levels during both Bush and Trump administrations.

    If its employment you're concerned with you're backing the wrong horse.
     
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    So, economic lockdowns have cut into their business and now they have to have more sales from military. If Democrats continue economic lockdowns and cut the military budget, the company will downsize. They encouraged all employees to vote for whomever they wished.

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    Grow up, Trump is not Bush, the Bushes are staunchly with Biden, both of them have a lot in common - horrible economy, negligible growth if any, stagnant wages, shrinking middle class, endless wasteful, useless wars, $4-$5/gallon oil...

    Trump is not Bush and not Obama/Biden, Trump's economy was a rocket with amazing record low unemployment, growing labor participation, 6 millions of unfilled job openings and $6,000 median income growth.

    PS your attempt to blame Corona virus job losses on Trump are beyond lame and pathetic, sorry to burst your bubble but you are fooling nobody. Don't insult our intelligence please. In fact the strength of Trump's economy helped the country sustain the blow and came out of it reasonably economically unscathed.
     
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    No, of course not, and neither did the employer in the OP.
     
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    Compare that to knowing that the CEO of your company sent this email personally trashing Trump to all of your company's customers.

    One letter is economic-focused. The other is political activism.

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    Yes it did, that's why it's ending now.
     
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    ...... because of a global pandemic. And the dems were still pissed claiming we re-opened too early. Let's not pretend that things crashed because of bad economic policies.
     
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    Sam Smith wasn't fired. He quit. The letter was "one of the reasons", so sounds like the letter was the excuse to leave the company then try to sue for money.

    https://www.kcra.com/article/letter-president-company-layoffs-dmc/34401386

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    I posted it for you. It has better detail and obviously that little additional fact that the employee quit for "several reasons".
     
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    Well being an "originalist" I just read the words and apply them as written. I thought you guys liked that.
     
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    No, I didn't.

    When I talk to children, I don't treat them like adults; I meet them at their level

    Yawn.

    Cringe.

    I don't care.

    Again, yawn. Also quite cringeworthy. I think I hit a nerve with you, which also makes this kind of hilarious; but also makes me pity you
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    I have no doubt that you have been studied by many psychologists.

    Okay, Mensa.

    That's funny. Since you've said the following.

    And, of course, let's not forgot the incredibly cringeworthy:



    You're citing Yahoo news, you yahoo.

    Regarding the article, there is no substance to their arguments. It's pretty much over 700 economists saying that Donald Trump is mean and orange; they don't go into detail as to why he is bad for the economy and Biden is good in comparison. Furthermore, it is well known that the majority of economists are liberal. (1)

    Goldman Sachs says that Biden will be good for the economy? Is this the same Goldman Sachs that played a major roll in the 2008 financial crisis? (2)

    Also, Goldman Sachs is a part of Wall Street, which donates more money to the Democrat Party. (3)

    As Biden would say, "Come on, man."

    Jeeze. I must have hurt your feelings badly.

    I'm sorry.

    I hope you'll feel better soon.

    1. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/economists-arent-as-nonpartisan-as-we-think/
    2. https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-financial-crisis-mortagage-backed-securities
    3. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/17/9026...ney-is-betting-on-biden-and-democrats-in-2020
     
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    Never said Trump was Bush, simply pointed out the indisputable fact that Republicans crash the economy and Democrats grow the economy.
     
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    :) Understood. Well, a warning is not a threat. Bad things might happen to our company if pro-tax pro-regulations anti-business Biden is elected is a warning.... If you don't vote for Trump and show me a proof, consider yourself fired would be intimidation. Thank god, no one resorted to the later :)
     
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    You've got your opinion, but the actions of the employer do seem to add credibility to the claim. His retaliation counts for far more than your opinion.
     
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