Can Dominion Voting Systems sue President Trump for defamation?

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  1. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dominion Voting Systems is for profit corporation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems
    Trump and Giuliani accused Dominion Voting Systems of a fraud, which can have a negative impact on selling of their products. Can they sue Trump and Giuliani?
     
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    Dominion sue Trump? Ha, they're lucky Trump hasn't sue them. They can be facing multiple lawsuits from Trump, the GOP, and election officials for flipping Trump votes to Biden. Dominion engineers rigged the result. Trump should sue them big.
     
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    That would be an interesting law suit.
    Trump has to prove that votes were flipped.
    Dominion has to prove that Trump's words hurt sales and their reputation.
    Trump would have a hard time proving monetary damages.
    Dominion could sue Trump for hundreds of millions in lost sales.

    Be interesting to see what happens when Trump leaves office.
    Does Moderna and Pfizer sue Trump for his words about stalling announcements of their vaccine? Pfizer has a war chest 100 times larger than Trump.
    Trump has made a career of suing people - but now he's going after the big boys who can fight back.
     
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  4. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I would if I was the owner of Dominion.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes Pfizer is a big dog and they own the Democratic Party. My boss at work is using a medication from Pfizer that is $60K/yr... that works out to $15K/shot. A company does not get to charge ruinous rates like this without owning a political party. One of the things that is guaranteed under Biden is no relief from the pharmaceutical industry. I would recommend you buy stock in them now.

    I would prefer that a class action by the disenfranchised voters be brought against Dominion and right now before they get access to their machines again. Lawsuits have a little thing called discovery. In discovery, Dominion would be forced to provide the source code for those machines. That would be interesting. I believe that any machine used in an election should have their source code, compiler/linker and CRC/hex available to the public at all times. Then people like me could easily tell if there is fraud coded into the machine and everybody would trust that they aren't cooking the numbers.
     
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    Your boss takes a drug, so drug prices won't go down under Biden? I'm not seeing the connection. Biden has a plan. I don't know what it is, but I'm not making the claim. Do you know what Biden's plan for prescription drugs is?

    This has already been checked. The entire election was checked, monitored, observed, rechecked, by Democrats, Republicans, independents, foreigners, the DHS, state officials, local officials, everyone who participated, everyone who watched live webcams, everyone.

    The only thing you're looking for is a Trump win. You're not going to find it hidden in conspiracy theories. You're not going to find it. Like the evidence, it's not there. It's over.
     
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    Problem with making a source code public is that it virtually assures the code can be hacked.
    Appointing a non-partisan committee of well vetted computer specialists would be acceptable.

    And your boss was paying $60K a year while TRUMP was in office.
     
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  8. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    And when your investigation into the source code produces nothing you'll then claim that the code was different to the code that was used during the count
     
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    Yep. They have a sworn affidavit - UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY - that a guy got out of a PIZZA TRUCK, at 2 AM, with a BRIEFCASE CHAINED TO HIS WRIST!

    or maybe he was wearing a watch...

    ...yes, the truck said Roto Rooter...Roto Rooter Pizza...

    ...and it might have been a woman rearranging her purse...
     
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    This is not really that complicated. They pick a few locations where the vote is suspect and they used Dominion machines. They do a top to bottom check of a Dominion vote tabulator and they hand count a few thousand votes. Once they verify the tabulator is working correctly, they run the suspect precinct votes through the tabulator. They should be very close to the "official" tally. If they do not agree, then they try it on a few other suspect precincts. That should not take more than a few days. If they find significant disagreement, they should do a complete recount where ever they used Dominion machines.
     
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    What the flux would be the basis for a law suit against Domian. What has Dominian done? Their machines helped facilitate the most honest election ever.
     
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    They absolutely could and should. If they don't, it prolly because they're afraid of losing.
     
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    Holy Peperoni ,! That is it that smoking mozzarella we were looking for to proove that fraudulent pizza crust really existed.
     
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    Making the code public does mean you can change the code, it means many people who know how to code can look for bugs. People with bad intention will try to use the bugs for their own benefits, people with good intentions will ask to correct buds. There are many useful programs with open source, for example Linux.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a strong feeling that Dominion are very lucky and Trump will not sue them, the primary reason is that the is no evidence that Dominion engineers rigged the result of the election. But don't worry - President Trump is a genius, very easy he can convince his supporters that Dominion engineers rigged the result of the election, to do this he don't need to show any evidence, enough to show them this clip:
     
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    I'm sure Trump's attorney's will get the complete source code, not from Dominion but from an impounded voting machine.
     
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    Of course..... and if they don't do so then that omission seems to have implications to me.
     
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    And the same can be said if President Trump will not sue Dominion...
     
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    I think legally the onus is on his lawyers since they are representing him and are telling him this.
     
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    Except we already know for a fact that happened at least three times. The last thing whoever owns dominion wants is a full discovery process looking through their crap with a fine toothed comb. In fact such discovery is why most companies cheerfully settle out of court if at all possible.
     
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  21. truth and justice

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    Odd that given that every claim regarding Dominion has been thrown out before even starting. Perhaps you should present your evidence?
     
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    Dude they haven't even presented all the Dominion evidence. And the courts reasoning thus far is that they haven't yet shown enough fraud to matter not that they haven't shown any.
     
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    Yep, it's always tomorrow when this breaking evidence is going to be presented. What fraud committed by Dominion has already been shown?
     
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    Dominion voting machines flipped a whole damn county in Michigan from Trump to Biden, it was caught early however. That's just one and they're still collecting data.
     
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    That did not happen
     

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