AOC the capitalist

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  1. Hey Nonny Mouse

    Hey Nonny Mouse Well-Known Member

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    You shouldn't have any trouble backing up your claim, then. If you have a case to make, fire away!
     
  2. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    If she is a hypocrite its not from anything you have presented or that would bother you, and certainly not for supporting American business by selling shirts.
    You support Trump, so obviously hypocrites dont bother you or any other Trump supporters anyway.
     
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    No but your propaganda and misrepresentations of fact are.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Why do you desperately want that to be the case? Its not true, but thats not whats important is it? Spreading propaganda and rumors was your intention wasn't it?

    Looks like you fooled the obvious crowd..Trump supporters that believe anything convenient amiright?
     
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  5. jcarlilesiu

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    There is a difference between advocating for workers rights and being outright opposed to capitalism. AOC claimed capitalism is irredeemable, that isn't simply advocating. She is a hypocrite.
     
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    Nope, that's just your failed reading comprehension. You saw the part you wanted to see then stopped reading perhaps or comprehending how that statement fit into the entire narrative.
    Typical of Trump supporters really.

    The thing is, she's using capitalism, shouldn't you be happy? The end result is capitalism works. Shes against crony capitalism. As in abusing workers, and their situation to enrich your self.
    Her shirts are from Union shops, that employ American workers end of story. Its only a good thing what she is doing. You should also be happy shes not relying sole on Tax dollars to push an agenda you most likely dont agree with.

    And finally If you are a Trump supporter..Then obviously hypocrites dont even bother you..so you are just getting outraged over nothing.
     
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  7. Soupnazi

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    She is opposed to capitalism not just crony capitalism. She condemns what she is doing.

    Yes it works but she is a two faced hypocrite which is indusputable fact
     
  8. jcarlilesiu

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    I didn't vote for Trump either time. You ASSummptions are showing.


    The fact is, she has a degree in economics and I dont think she understands capitalism or socialism. Only left wing talking points.

    She has said outright she opposes capitalism. You are putting words in her mouth to qualify her comments.

    Is that shop, or her, pulling profit? If so, why?
     
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    And like I said even if that narrative was accurate (It isnt). You would be a hypocrite for being outraged..You support Trump. His hypocrisy have done far more damage then anything you assume AOC's selling of shirts prove.
     
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    Cause she needs cash to push her agenda thats why. Isnt that obvious?
    Should she be trying to redistribute taxes to her friends instead like republicans? In the lie of reducing them? For some reason that's the method some people who vote for the right prefer.
     
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    It is fact not narrative and it is accurate.

    Pointing out hypoc risy is not hypocritical

    I have not supported trumo.

    You are stating outright lies
     
  12. ImNotOliver

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    Conservatives/conformists/Republicans/authoritarians are so funny. They tend to be a little slow in understanding that capitalism is a liberal thing. Adam Smith was a liberal. The wealthiest men in America tend to lean liberal.

    Ya’all are continually confused because right-wing propaganda has been feeding ya’all kinds of things that just aren’t true.


    It is not AOC that is a hypocrite, it is that your ideology does not reflect reality.
     
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    She is a proven hypocrite based on her own ideology.

    Your grasp of political issues/ideologies is weak and ignorant
     
  14. jcarlilesiu

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    Everybody needs cash and profit to push for their goals. Thats the point of capitalism. Using profit to rally against profit... hmm.

    Talking points.

    When you say "redistribute taxes", you mean among the only people that pay them in the first place?
     
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    Really?! Thats surprising..then i got nothing against you I guess, be as irrationally outraged as i guess you feel you need to be then.

    By Trumo, you mean Trump correct..you never supported his presidency?
     
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    If you completely leave out the word "friends" you can come to that conclusion I guess..what ever you need to do to push propaganda amiright?
     
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    It is not hypocrisy that you are pointing out. You are instead misrepresenting things.
     
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    How much federal income tax do you think AOC has paid in her life as a dependent, then a student, and finally a waitress?

    Hint: she enjoyed far more benefits than she contributed, yet she wants to tell everybody else that profit, capitalism, and the tax generated from that is not enough. She is an entitled little ****. Like most others who tow the progressive agenda.
     
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    Right now, the cost annually to run the country is just a tad under $14,000 per person. People that enjoy to benefits the USA provides, that don't pay their share of $14,000 need to shut the hell up and be thankful other people are picking up the tab for them. Thats my point, and she is too stupid to understand that.
     
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    It may be that certain people have an alternative view as to what capitalism is. Central to capital theory is competition. The idea that anyone can compete in a fair marketplace. What has gone wrong is that the US, and especially the conservative side have gone corporatist. Instead of going into the store and seeing a hundred different shampoos made by a hundred different companies I see a hundred different shampoos made by four companies. It used to be that every station on the radio dial had a separate owner, now a couple of large corporations own them all.

    Why should a few mega corporations be allowed to control all the commerce in America? Why should we be beholden to those who run and profit off of that consolidation.

    If the laws were such that any company whose profits exceed say ten billion in a year should be spit in two, there would be more competition and more freedoms.
     
  21. Soupnazi

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    Yes I meant trump and he never needed support
     
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    Make your own shampoo and compete.
     
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    Yes it is absolute hypicrsy and cannot be described any other way
     
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    Oh yes the F$%k he did..It took ALOT of special kinds of <strike>idiots</strike> people to put that man in charge of this country. He managed to gather them all up into one big group. And there were ALOT more then I assumed. I always knew there were gullible people but Gdanm did he round them up good.

    No one really had a problem with Trump the Casino owner..Its his supporters that put him in charge that were the problem. They define alot that's wrong with this country.
     
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    Not once he was elected. His presidency was what you asked about
     

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