AOC the capitalist

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    His supporters simply oppose your views they are not what is wrong.

    I never voted for him or cared about his presidency. I also respect that you opposed his presidency but in fact condemnation of other americans for their political views IS what is wrong with the progressives of this country.
     
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    Socialist / communists ruling class has a history of hypocrisy. FB_IMG_1607271719640.jpg
     
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    The hypocrisy is that your ideology does not square with reality. It is your pretended reality that is hypocritical.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    No, it is its supporters who are the problem. Not them directly, but those who direct them. The purveyors of alternate reality.
     
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    I have stated no ideology.

    She has and her actions are in direct contradiction which is what makes a hypocrite.
     
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    They have no alterante reality. They have differeing political opinions the problem is your delusion that you know better and are better informed which therefore makes them the problem
     
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    Oh? The woman is a self-described "democratic socialist." She is the anti-capitalist poster girl. Now she's manufacturing goods and selling them for profit: THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF CAPITALISM. She is a hypocrite. Tell me where I'm wrong.
     
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    Where you think a socialist cant participate in capitalism.

    "Capitalism and socialism are two different political, economic, and social systems blended together by countries around the world. ... Most countries have mixed economies with economic elements of both capitalism and socialism."
     
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    This particular socialist said "capitalism is irredeemable." She ought not participate in a system she feels is so unjust. She should lead by example. Most politicians are hypocrites, she has just elevated it to an art form.
     
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    Right. Here's what she should be wearing...

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    ...and immediately clarified that she doesn't mean that it should be gotten rid of, but that it shouldn't be unrestricted. Go and read what she said.

    If you got that quote from a site that didn't mention her clarification, thaen the website you are relying on is dishonest.

    Since this has already been pointed out in the thread, I'm assuming that you haven't read the whole thread.
     
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    Would you follow her example if she somehow was able to survive in America dodging every thing capitalist? No. So what would be the point in leading by that example. Look she hates capitalism but must swallow that hard pill of reality that capitalism is necessary for her to push what ever agenda she was voted into office for. That not hypocrisy ok. Thats life.

    And once again you are misrepresenting what her views are.

    The Mothers of MADD were hypocrites, most republicans that push policy against social views are hypocrites, AOC pushing socialism in a capitalist country is pushing socialism in a capitalist country. You can have both in that regard as demonstrated. Who lied to you and said you couldn't?
     
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    My source is the actual words that came out of her mouth at SXSW in 2019. These trendy socialists love to rail against CEOs and "corporate greed," claiming, as the estimable and honorable junior congresswoman Mdme. Cortez, "the workers create all the wealth, not the CEOs," or my favorite from President 44, "you didn't build that!" What they ignore, either out of ignorance or convenience, is capital risk. Somebody has to risk capital -- that is their own actual real money -- to build that factory or that software company or that chain store or that fast food outlet in which these workers exchange their labor for remuneration. Without that capital risk, THERE IS NO NEED FOR LABOR. Hence, your $15/hr. job becomes $0/hr.. Well, heck what on earth could ever motivate somebody to risk their very own real money so that others can have a $15/hr. job... There must be some incentive? Having a hard time putting my finger on it... any guesses?
     
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    She immediately clarified what she meant. Go and read what she said. She's never advocated abolishing capitalism and it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.
     
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    The body of your posts clearly state an ideology.

    You only think that AOC is a hypocrite because you have accepted a false narrative. I’ll even bet that you were inspired to start this thread after having such a narrative served up to you.
     
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    You must be confused. This is a picture of the guy who the Trump thought it was having a bromance with. Yet this fellow was just playing the Trump as the fool that it is. In all the negotiations and threats North Korea could do nothing about the US military threat off their border. All it took was to flatter the Trump and it stepped aside.
     
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    Sure there isn’t. That is why so many are claiming the vote was stolen from the Trump, even though there is no indication of such malfeasance.
     
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    Straw man: I never claimed she advocated abolishing capitalism. I claimed she said it is "irredeemable." Why do I make this claim? Because, wait for it, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
     
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    I see what you did there. Your red herring notwithstanding, the "Mao Suit" worn traditionally by communist leaders is intended to demonstrate that all are equal. Your dear leader wears the same clothing as you. Phony socialist Cortez wears $600 shoes. The average DPRK laborer in the socialist paradise has to work TEN MONTHS just to afford the shoes... assuming they don't eat, travel, buy a sundrie, and wipe their ass with their bare hands. She is a phony, a fraud, riding a trendy wave. No real socialist would be *buried* in $600 shoes, let alone pose for Vanity Fair wearing them.
     
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    . Maybe you do not understand capitalism. The most liberal people in the country are also the most productive. The problem that you are having is that your source of information is faulty. Adam Smith was a liberal as was Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, and Steve Jobs. The technology that created modernity came almost entirely from liberals. The care for the underclasses has always been a concern of liberals.
     
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    Nothing in my post states, describes or suggests and ideology

    It is fact she is a hypocrite based on her openly professed ideology.

    You clearly have a reading comprehension problem
     
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    The most productive people are not socialist and are smart enough to oppose the ideology of and the flaming hypocrite
     
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    Correct they are simply stupid and have no alternate reality

    Just as your silly lies claiming I described an ideology of my own is not an alternate reality. Just simple childish lies
     
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    Ad hominem fallacy: I am not the topic of this thread.

    Faulty generalization fallacy and non sequitur: You cannot not prove your assertion, nor is it a relevant counterpoint to my argument.

    Ad hominem fallacy and red herring fallacy: I am not the topic of this thread, nor do you know my "source of information." I have not cited a source, nor did you request one.

    Straw man fallacy: the topic of this thread is not "liberals" as you fallaciously assert.

    Six fallacies in six sentences. Could be a record!
     
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    So her own capitalism is okay, but the capitalism of others is evil, is that right?
     

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