Tuberville Throws Support Behind Electoral College Challenge

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  1. PPark66

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    No. We want all these representatives on record. McConnell’s nightmare scenario would be preferable. Senate and House Republicans forced into a vote. It’s one thing to parade around perpetuating a hoax. It’s quite another to tell your base with your vote you were only playing along out of political expediency.

    I wanna see the train wreck.
     
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    WRONG.

    That is an Hilariously Misguided Overgeneralization.

    It is actually Comical.

    But, let's analyze that Egregious Misguided FALSE "Assertion".

    1) The current estimated Population of the USA is 331 Million.

    2) Trump got 74.2 Million Votes.

    3) Even if every Trump Voter believed that "the vote was fraudulent on a massive scale":

    That would ONLY be 22.4% of America!

    Since when did 22.4% (Which is Less that 1/4) become "half"?

    Is that the New (Trumpian) Math?

    Tl;Dr--Your FALSE "Assertion" has been thoroughly dismantled.

    Carry on.:salute:
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    No it has not and not about Trump winning or losing but do cite the ruling on just PA and judges and officials changing the rules as set by the state legislature. Did they rule they acted constitutionally or not?
     
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    When did you swear to that under penalty of law? What federal investigator or officer of a court did you swear that to? If you have not then your statement is entirely specious to the matter at hand.
     
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    Sorry but that was totally refuted in the Senate Hearings along with the fact that judges and local officials changed the rules of the elections as set by the state legislatures, are you even denying that?

    And that is great for your state and mine. Unfortunately that is not the case in many of the states that rushed in mail in voting.

    This has become your canard now. One again we can all agree to the stipulation Biden has won, OK got it now? This is about what happened during the election and the integrity of our future elections using unverified mail in voting and other manners of insecure and unverified voting.
     
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    The security and integrity of our election processes are not rabbit holes they are vital to our system of government and how do you know that it did not affect not a single of the hundreds if not thousands of elections that were held. Is fraud OK for a city council seat? Your local tax assessor? Circuit court judge? That's just another canard you side throws out, that the ONLY election that occurred was for President and VP.
     
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    Let's assume you're right and those law changes were unconstitutional (maybe that's true). It was done in an attempt to keep people safe during a pandemic, and the laws weren't challenged before the election. In those circumstances, do you really think the SC is going to say, "Never mind the intentions behind the rule change; never mind that millions voted in good faith; we're going to throw out all votes which come under this unconstitutional change, handing the election to the other guy"?
     
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    what are you going on about? please back it up with a link to the specifics you are referring to.

    Newmax has an interesting take on evidence for election fraud. Perhaps you've seen it?

    How much did you contribute to stop the steal?
     
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    Intuitively. Sorry, we don't accept that in the US as legal proof of anything. Sounds like feelings to me, not intuition.
     
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    Nothing 'happened' during the election!! People VOTED, I know the GOP hates that, hates it to their core but other than NOTHING happened! it was one of if not the smoothest election I can remember.
    Your guy LOST, get over it already.
     
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    What real evidence do you have, other than your guy lost and a bag full of wet tissues?
     
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    And LOTS went wrong and was mismanaged, delayed tabulations and confused people and lower security and verification standards. And then the constitutional issues that remain unresolved.

    I don't know why you and others oppose a thorough investigation into the election with all that confusion with states trying to ramp up untested mass mailing vote systems, doing so with out of date voter roles, mass ballots going out and little if no verifications of who actually returned them, confusion in the counting rooms and how ballots were physically handled, how secure was that handling and on and on and on. It will only make our elections more secure and increase their integrity both real and perceived.
     
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    It is OBVIOUSLY TOO LATE to affect the results of this election.

    Biden Won and Trump LOST. Period.

    After Biden is sworn in, bring it on.

    Investigate to their heart's content.
     
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    I don't know why you want an investigation when Trump's lawyers have failed to make a convincing case in court that there is any significant issue to be addressed (except for PA late votes, which by itself clearly won't change the election result).
     
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    No one opposes anything, it's just that there is NOTHING to investigate. All this that you and others are whining about for the last 2 MONTHS simply didn't happen or isn't out of the norm.
    Why can't the right see that and just accept your guy lost?
    60 plus lawsuits and ALL of them have been tossed out on merit, there is nothing there, give it up.
    Everything you are whining about HAS been looked into and nothing was found! I know, I know your guy lost and that means something terrible HAD to have happen, but the reality is, it didn't.
    Each state is more than free to look into their own processes and make changes or don't make changes. I imagine that is something most states do after ever election. The feds have NOTHING to say or do about it.
    Your guy lost, buck up and move on.
     
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    Intuitively, I believe Margot Robbie should be my girlfriend (also intuitively, I believe my wife would be OK with that)...
     
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    Oh HELL yeah.... I cannot wait to see a vote attempting to overturn a crushing election defeat based on "feewings things were broken" that is also guaranteed to fail... Will not be a good day to be in the GOP....

    Cannot

    Wait...
     
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    Or you can file your case to a court in Georgia with this beautiful (and strangely accurate) typo

    SNIP
    True to form, on Friday a pro-Trump lawyer named L. Lin Wood, who spearheaded attempts to overturn Georgia’s president election results, lodged a new suit on similar lines, signing off his complaint that it he made his claims under “plenty of perjury,” rather penalty of perjury.

    I declare and verify under plenty of perjury that the facts contained in the foregoing Verified Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief are true and correct,” Mr Wood, an accomplished libel attorney with a large conservative following online, wrote in his complaint.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/plenty-perjury-maga-lawyer-files-205514646.html

    :roflol::roflol:

    Think what you will about the motives of Powell and Wood, they're dumber than 2 boxes of rocks...
     
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    Don't forget, in addition to Georgia on the 5th and this nonsense on the 6th, we are going to have to see what happens with this 6 vote differential on the 3rd.....

    SNIP
    Democratic leaders will have to decide on Jan. 3, the first day of the 117th Congress, whether to seat Republican Mariannette Miller Meeks provisionally or leave the seat open while it investigates.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/iowa-democrat-challenges-defeat-house-155755648.html

    Promises to be a helluva week in US history...
     
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    Reading this challenge now... whether relief is considered by the House or not, it's a well written, well documented legal filing...

    No wonder the GOP wants to pay off Marc Elias to go away

    https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-...A-02-Notice-of-Contest-and-Appendix-Scan1.pdf
     
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    ChiCowboy said

    "So, if I swear you robbed NSB, that's evidence of you doing so?"

    I asked.
    When did you swear to that under penalty of law? What federal investigator or officer of a court did you swear that to? If you have not then your statement is entirely specious to the matter at hand.

    Powell and Wood have nothing to do with. Have you or would you lie under oath to a court of law or and officer of that court or a criminal investigator?
     
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    You oppose a thorough look into this election cycle and I have clearly stated Biden won over and over. This is not about his winning which apparently continues to go over your head and cannot be explained further. If all you have is the nonsense you just posted there is nothing further to discuss. Keep your head in the sand about the key issues here I can't force you to address them.
     
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    You misunderstand. Eye witnesses make mistakes. If I swore that you committed a crime, THAT ALONE is not evidence. Even on the witness stand. An uncorroborated, unsupported signed statement ON ITS OWN is not evidence of anything. Especially from anyone who refuses to be cross examined. If any of this were true, there would have been depositions.
     
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    There will be no civil war. These implied threats of violence are just the cult pulling its taffy in public. Biden will be inaugurated, and history will record the mental illness perpetrated on the cult by its leader, as the cult disperses due to the mewntally ill narcissist losing all interest in politics (now that he can no longer steal campaign donations or hold campaign rallies to enrich his own mental illness).
     
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