Rioting for me, but not for thee

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  1. ECA

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    Not sure what to tell you. I guess not everyone can be as eloquent as you. And her laughing is beyond irritating.
     
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    Why deflect here? The question was sufficiently broad enough to just say no. so why try to deflect? And given your answer here, do you now acknowledge that you were wrong in your support for all of the previous years rioting and looting?
     
  3. Pollycy

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    When the darlings of the hyperliberal Left go on a rampage, it's all about "Injustice of the System" and other "righteous indignation" bullshit. They are merely poor, put-upon "protesters"... you see.... :angel:

    But, when right-wingers reach the boiling point and get angry and out of control, they get FIRED UPON by police! A woman who was unarmed and presented NO obvious threat to anyone in the Capitol was SHOT AND KILLED!
    Link: https://www.rt.com/usa/511764-capitol-shooting-trump-supporter/

    When the ANTIFA, BLM, and NFAC 'innocent protesters' were rampaging, rioting, burning and looting, how many times did a police force level their weapons and fire on THEM?! :lonely:
     
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  4. Montegriffo

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    Tell me, do you support the castle doctrine?
    If an unknown woman smashed her way into your home would you offer her a cup of tea or shoot her.
    This is the 3rd time I've asked this question of posters decrying the death of a protester trying to force her way into the seat of government. So far no response, do you have the intellectual honesty to answer? Tea or lead?
     
  5. Pollycy

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    By no legalistic invention can a "Castle Doctrine" be said to apply here. The Castle Doctrine applies to an American citizen in his own personal home and private property (here in Colorado, we call it the "Make My Day" law). and I do not (NOT) approve of, or condone, anybody smashing up property, committing acts of violence, looting, burning, or rioting -- not Trump supporters, ANTIFA, BLM, NFAC, or anybody else!

    So, I'll put your question back to you with a small alteration --

    If an unknown woman who was part of an ANTIFA or BLM mob smashed her way into your home would you offer her a cup of tea or shoot her?

    Now, do YOU "have the intellectual honesty to answer? Tea or lead?"

    Should the Trump supporter get "lead", but the angelic ANTIFA or BLM protester/rioter/arsonist/looter get "tea"...? :angel:
     
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    Justification for storming US government?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not claiming it is justification. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
     
  9. Pollycy

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    Ooh... so you're saying that Kamala-la-la did NOT say the things contained in that quote...? I'm not sure you want to do that and hope to maintain your own credibility. Direct QUOTES are a little hard to refute, doncha' think...?
     
  10. Montegriffo

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    ''legally occupied place''
    Do you deny that the Capitol is a legally occupied place?
    To answer your question, hell yes I would use any weapon available to defend myself against an intruder who had smashed a window and was trying to gain entrance whether they were a BLM, ANTIFA or MAGA hat wearing seditionist. I certainly would not be putting the kettle on.
    BTW it has not escaped my notice that you distracted, deflected and declined to answer. However, you did unwittingly answer my question about whether you had the intellectual honesty to do so.
     
  11. Bow To The Robots

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    They burned half of DC on inauguration day.
     
  12. Pollycy

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    I answered you, clearly, but now you want to parse what 'legally-occupied place' means, even though, by your own definition, OCCUPATION in the context of "Castle Doctrine" or "Make My Day" clearly indicates TENANT OCCUPANCY! I may not be a lawyer but at least I can read English.... Simply put, if someone comes busting into YOUR own personally-owned (or rented) "castle" uninvited, in states where a "Castle Doctrine" or a "Make My Day" law is in force, you can defend your life and property with lethal force! Thus ends this 'parsing'....

    Who owns the Capitol Building? You? Me? How about the American citizen, Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran from San Diego, who was shot and killed? Does any American citizen have the right to enter a public federal government building? Does any American citizen have the right to state grievances in a public government building against what he or she genuinely believes to be wrongs against themselves without being shot and killed?!
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    Nit picking about whether the castle doctrine applies or not aside how about answering my question about what you would do if someone smashed their way into your house?
    Tea or lead?
    Will you answer my direct question or simply inform me that yours is a coffee household so the question is moot?
     
  14. Montegriffo

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    I mean, really? Are you trying to equate a violent mob smashing their way into a restricted part of the seat of government with a citizen having the right to enter a government building (not a public part as you dishonestly imply) to state grievances?
    Come on now, your reputation as an honest debater is on the line here.
     
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    the real globalist

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    that woman was a seditious nut on a traitorous rampage who brought a stick to a gunfight and we watched her die in living color for nothing but the insanity stoked for 5yrs by the worst thing to ever walk this planet and he now plans to pardon himself expeditiously. what part of a flimsy bike barricade preventing this mob of thugs from passing didn't she and her fellow terrorists understand? they didn't like the fact that they were sent by Dear Leader to get his VP and overturn a fair and free election so he could mirror his pal Putin and remain in power and out of prison forever so they killed a guard and stormed the castle but dang! it didn't work out quite as planned. you can bet Putin is smiling bigger than ever, Rocketman is too, all our enemies are popping corks. OH BUT HER EMAILS!
    no, the never-right have never had a legit reason to bitch and from now on nobody is listening at all. just get out of America's way.
     
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    So "cheer on our brave senators" is incitement?

    Eh no.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    I'm not leaving out the context of the riots, I just find the "context" irrelevant. Just like the context is irrelevant for what happened Wednesday.

    See this is where we differ. You are not opposed to rioting and arson if you think the cause is good enough. I'm opposed to it period, regardless of the cause. Your comment is a perfect example of the subject line of this post.
     
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    The Democrats did it in 2011. For a entire month they occupied the Wisconsin State Capitol building and the media supported them. There was 20,000-30,000 Protestors.

    The left sure has selective memory.
     
  20. Lil Mike

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    Not hypocrisy, poor reading comprehension on your part, "Meanwhile I and most of the right leaning posters on this forum, have been fairly consistent, condemning both the summers BLM/Antifa rioting and yesterday's storming of the capital."
     
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    Heh, I remember it!
     
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    I'll refer you to post #12, #26, #40 #96 and I'm sure there will be more.
     
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    Yes but they were mostly peaceful.
     
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    Will you answer my direct question or simply inform me that yours is a coffee household so the question is moot?[/QUOTE]

    Oh, Monte, believe me when I say that if we were talking face-to-face, I wouldn't be at all coy about how I feel that scum-sucking home-invaders should be dealt with. But, I've learned the hard way that expressions in a forum which can in any way be construed as promoting violence must be written with great caution... to wit, I don't want to get 'banned' again.... So, please, I ask that you use your imagination and draw an intuitive conclusion about my probable reaction in the hypothetical situation you originally proposed....

    Lending itself much more open to be revealed here are my feelings (since you asked for them) about how a "violent mob smashing their way into a restricted part of the seat of government" should be handled. I would want them to be handled in the same way that we saw the other police handle ANTIFA, BLM, and other radical rioters handled throughout the United States all during 2020. There -- now, does that tell you anything?!

    Oh, I know... few were ever caught, few were ever held in jail if they were caught, and few were ever given either fines or prison time -- but -- hey, fair is fair is FAIR... right?
     
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    trust me, we don't.
    the difference couldn't be more stark, those in Wisconsin were mostly poor school teachers getting screwed royal by the royaly screwing righty Gov., the despicable Scott Walker vs a lunatic conspiracy mob intent on killing and sedition in DC. no, the Dems didn't do the same thing.
     
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