House moves to impeach Trump after deadly Capitol riot

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mention verbal assaults on Trump and family....everyone has to deal with those...
    but their were actual attempted physical assaults on Capitol personnel and members of congress...
    is that not correct?
     
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    sadly I doubt it.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ah com'on you know that being mean to the Dear Leader is more than enough to justify ransacking the Capitol, murdering a cop and literally crapping on one of the most recognizable symbols of American Democracy on the planet.

    Can't you see how much of a victim he's been for the entire time he's been president? No normal human being could withstand such vicious attacks, but thank god for america he brushed all that aside and made america great again. Why he did such a good job he's leaving with small $250 million parting gift.

    The desperation of willful ignorance and the dawning feeling of being totally had by the all time greatest worst president in history makes for the most outrages batcrap crazy excuses.
     
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    Not that lie again!
     
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    You want to go back this last year and comb through the Dems statements support the left-wing anarchist and insurrectionists?

    What witness testified that Trump told him to go and storm the Capital and in violence?
    What affidavit did Pelosi present stating such?
    Where in the articles of impeachment do they quote Trump calling for insurrection?

    They are basing in on a federal crime which is very specific ansld this doesn't come close.

    He's done for the voting public would make the decision about holding future office as rightfully that should be theirs. Once again the Democrats have shot their wad and embarrassed themselves and are now going to totally overshadow Bidens inauguration and the Senate cannot conduct other business once the articles have been delivered to them. That not Bidens first hundred days who'll accomplished much and the Dems don't get him a reset of that he could have stopped this days ago. And if they try to railroad it through like the House then more and more people will see that this is just a political stunt that has greatly harmed the country.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    If Trump had no control on the rioters why did they go home after Trump told them to go home?
     
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    start your own thread.

    I'd suggest getting on topic in this thread though.

    Your inability to respond is enough....go scream and cry in blue to someone else.
     
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    And what big lie would that be?....in your own words.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its part of their vocabulary. no amount of correction will have effect. (comes with the territory they inhabit)
     
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    Whataboutism again. Can't resist, can you.

    How many times must you be told???? THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS OR TESTIMONY OF PARTICIPANTS TO FIND A PERSON GUILTY OF SEDITION. It only takes words judged to be incitement, and the event that was incited. And this is THE FIRST CASE OF INSURRECTION in a long, long time of many decades and centuries. So last summer is irrelevant whataboutism.
     
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    That there was massive election fraud that stole the election from Dear Leader and in truth he won by a landslide. It is only the truly evil people who hated poor donnie from the start that cheated him out of his rightful destiny as the greatest leader in all of human history, or so people tell him.

    You know that Dominion voting machine bullshit that Fox and OANN and the rest had to issue RETRACTIONS and apologies in order to avoid Dominion suing their arses of for hundreds of millions with every chance of winning. That's just one of the smaller lies that comprise the big lie. now if only Chavez could be persuaded to testify.

    And all the rest of the bullshit that is effective in trumpland because most "patriots" have no friggin clue about the processes and mechanics of running secure elections which are only the foundation of their beloved country.

    That Kraken is one mean mofo tho, aint it?. Did ya see how it bit Sidney Powell in the ass? Turned on her in a nanosecond.
     
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    Will no one rid me of this trubulent priest?

    they never read shakespeare I guess.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    STILL waiting for PROOF that there was voter fraud and the elections was stolen.....(as Trump claimed to fire up his rabble...)

    Which had NOTHING to do with my original post....just your deflection attempt :)


    How odd you don't seem to mind all the other off topic posts ;)
     
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    You don't believe in equal treatment. Harris SOLICITED money to aid and abet the leftwing anarchist and insurrectionist. The House can impeach her the afternoon of January 20th because she says people who aid and abet insurrectionist should not serve one day in office.

    So which will it be for you hypocracy and equal treatment?

    HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD THIS IS AN IMPEACHMENT? And yes in this country those accused get to see the evidence of the accusations. And to be charged with insurrection is even a higher bar and they present no evidence to support their alledged inciting insurrection but if that is what you want from now on, an opposition House can just voted to impeach a President anytime that President says something they don't and not even have to present any of inciting insurrection then we can expect Presidents to be routinely impeached maybe a couple of times a year.

    We already have grounds based on this impeachment to impeach both Harris and Biden if we get a Republican House at the mid-terms and that is EXACTLY where Pelosi and Schumer and Biden are heading them.
     
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    I imagine 99.99% of them had planned to do that before he even gave the speech. You see this was no mass take over the streets for weeks, riot, loot, arson like the leftwing insurrectionist who also stormed the White House trying to get to the President and his family and injuring over 60 law enforcement officers trying to defend it.

    Can you point me to where Pelosi and Schumer were calling for a reaction anywhere close to what they are demanding now?

    How about when the insurrectionist invaded the Capital to confront and threaten Senators during the Kavanaugh confirmation, one of the most important duties of the Senate, and then marched to the Supreme Court and tried to break in. Thankful the government law enforcement at the the WH and SCOTUS did a much better job than Pelosi does protecting the Capital.
     
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    So still waiting to quote him telling others to engage in insurrection. If THAT is your standard then there are LOTS of leftwing politicians that need to be equally charged. You do believe in equal justice don't you or should the party impower be able to use that power to target and intimidate and threaten their political opposition.
     
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    Maybe it's more like sedition.
    Either way.....
     
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    And your fundamental misunderstanding of the Constitution and our laws. The Constitution AUTHORIES things and if if is NOT in the Constitution then the government can't do it. And there IS a Constitutional provision that states who is subject to impeachment and removal and it doesn't say private citizens or former Presidents, it says THE President and we only have one at a time. The Constitution also says the the Chief Justice shall sit in judgement at the impeachment of THE President. If THE President is not on trial, if a private citizen is being tried then he can sit at it. And no one else can fill in for him. So there can't be at trial by a strict reading of the Constitution.
     
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    I've been waiting too.............want some popcorn............:popcorn:
     
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    Sedition.
    Yep. I like it. Fits perfectly.

    Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references.
     
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    There is legal precedent of proceeding with impeachment after the accused had left office. Apparently you are not all that constitutionally cognizant.
    dunning kruger striking again.
     
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    The insurrectionist here didn't represent the vast VAST majority of the protesters but look at the reaction and mobilization and hypocracy of the Dems having their sudden epiphany about anarchy and insurrection. Has Harris instructed her bail fund to bail out all these "mostly peaceful protesters" and does she only support leftwing insurrection and anarchy?


    Nothing controversial other the the paid for lies Clinton fed to the FBI and Obama administration and incited the riots at his inauguration. You can keep showing your BLARING hypocracy along with Pelois and Schumer and Biden and Harris and the rest of the Dems and MSM.


    So one again like with RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and IMPEACHMENT you can't provide any proof of what is staring you in the face and in your plain sight. For over 4 years you have been making the same baseless allegations.

    Just quoted from the Articles of Impeachment what is the specific language where he urged people to engage in insurrection and how that applies to the laws against such and upon which there are basing the impeachment, it's what it is named for.



    And to be a specific remeday for specific acts by a specific person. The Dems are BASING the impeachment on a violation of the law, inciting insurrection. So they have to prove it. And they provided NOTHING to back their claim other than their own hearsay. NONE of them were down there in that crowd when he utter what he said. And the only thing they could come up with is NOT inciting insurrection.


    WAIT A MINUTE..................they had to do it RIGHT NOW...........he could remain in office not a SECOND MORE............NOT ONE MORE DAY. And everyday we see more and more they have nothing to back up the charges. I've been clear he should never have made speech, it's been time for him to back away and leave it up to his legal team. But there was nothing impeachable, heck the insurrection was planned DAYS before he even spoke. They insurrectionist brought the tools and means of doing so with them. It's almost hiliarious they are running around with the LOOK IT WAS PLANNED AND ORGANIZED and then turning around and saying that if it solely happend because of what Trump said that day else nothing would have happened, HE caused it. The duplicity goes hand in hand with their hypocracy.

    You must have donated big time to stop the steal.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Let me see... Who do I believe the manufacture or your opinion piece.
    Easy choice for me, but evidently not for you.

    Your piece is correct in that the rollout is another Trump failure, just like testing.
    But at least in this case we have Joe to fix it.
     
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    So the New York times is lying now...........................the states have the vaccines it is THEY who are struggling because they weren't prepared and how much of that has to do with the mocking Trump took for saying his task force would get it done calling him deraigned and lying that it would NEVER happen. Well it did and most state have not even gone through half of their first allotments and are having to adjust their distribution. Biden has nothing to do with that he can't go micromanage every state and every count and I have NO REASON to believe he had his DC bureaucrats could do a better job? Why does everyone always think that people who work in Washington are SO much smarter than people who live and work in the States?
     
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    Not a President and it hasn't been done in those cases which were settled outside of the impeachment. The President and the trial of a President in an impeachment have SPECIFIC constitutional provisions as I have already stated. And no your use of terms you don't even understand as much as my government refutes nothing but being snarky can make one look foolish even when they aren't as certainly you are not.
     

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