A logical and empirical look at Election Fraud in 2020

Ya, but only in the states Trump lost...not the other states (sarcasm alert)

 

What exactly do you think I am saying when I say there was election fraud.

Me: "I believe there was election fraud committed"
You: "as you have been shown there is fraud"

Me: "I do not think Biden won because of fraud"
You: "it doesn't make any difference"

I believe there is fraud every time, and I don't believe it amounts to anything. If you must have evidence to move own, see post# 7

 

The Trump legal team alleged massive election fraud in court pleadings. You could read the pleadings or review the many interviews with Giuliani for details which are now well known.

 

This is my original post to you:'
FoxHastings said: ↑
Uh, you say, ""I do believe there was election fraud committed.""

Then YOU say, "" If there was hard evidence, we would have it by now"""


So why do you believe it with no evidence?

 

What did the Trump team allege in their pleadings?

 

If you know someone flipped a coin 1000 times, would you believe there was a run of five heads somewhere in the 1000 flips? But what is your evidence for that belief?

 

not a single trump lawsuit alleged fraud. Trump lawyers specifically stated, in court, that they were not alleging fraud.

 

So, what exactly did they allege? Paste it up.

 

Simple math shows election fraud. In Pennsylvania, for example, more mail in ballots came back than were mailed out.

But election fraud aside many, many ballots were cast under "new election laws" that were not created by State legislators.....that alone is illegal.

In many swing states Republican observers were not allowed to observe....again, illegal.

Many, many signed affidavits alleging fraud were presented. That is called evidence.

There is fraud on video with counting the same ballots multiple times and suitcases of ballots brought out after folks were sent home.

There are so many instances like this it is ridiculous.

Not to mention how some places stopped counting votes at a certain time....when has that happened? When democrats are behind. They stopped the counting of actual votes and Trump was ahead. That way they knew how many phony ballots they needed to put Biden ahead.

 

Trumps lawyers had a good enough argument on illegal ballots being cast.

 

improper procedures on the part of the state governors and secretaries of state. Not one case alleged fraud.

 

we know they didn't, because there weren't any illegal ballots cast, nor is there evidence of such. It's why they didn't bring up fraud in a single lawsuit.

 

LOL! Any ballot cast as a result of a change in election law by someone other than a state legislature is illegal.

 

not according to the law, lol. It's why trump lost every single legal challenge alleging so.

 

Wrong. The Constitution states this. Those ballots were cast illegally.

 

All due respect, I could. But lawyers allege BS all the time, kind of the job.

I would love to see some actual evidence to support your position though, or some logical conclusion as to why you believe Giuliani.

 

Read Rule 11.

Why would the DP let the Trump team get away with filing false pleadings in an effort to overturn an election?

 

Who told you that? I just check 1 of the cases.

"NATURE OF THE ACTION
1. This civil action brings to light a massive election fraud..."

WILLIAM FEEHAN,
v.
Plaintiff,
CASENO. 2:20-cv-1771
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT EASTERN DISTRICT OF WISCONSIN
WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION, and its members ANN S. JACOBS, MARK L. THOMSEN, MARGE BOSTELMAN, JULIE M. GLANCEY, DEAN KNUDSON, ROBERT F. SPINDELL, JR., in their official capacities, GOVERNOR TONY EVERS, in his official capacity,
Defendants.

 

Here is my opinion:

Usually I don’t vote for Republicans or Democrats. In 2020 I voted for Biden only because of Trump.
Does Trump really believe there was an election fraud? Very difficult to say, he is a pathological liar.
Was there an election fraud? I am not a detective, so my choice is to trust over 50 judges (some nominated by Trump), attorney general William Barr (nominated by Trump), cyber security experts and GOP Georgia secretary or to trust a pathological liar.
But hey, we are living in a free country, trusting a pathological liar is not a crime.

 

You seem to have a preconceived notion about what you think I mean by "I do believe there was election fraud committed."

I believe there is fraud every time, and I don't believe it amounts to anything. That is all that means. A few cases here and there of ballots in the trash can or whatever, don't mean a stolen election.

 

no it doesn't.

not according to the law, which is why trump lost every single legal challenge alleging so.

 

That's interesting! So what were they alleging?

Edit: never mind

 

not a trump lawsuit

https://casetext.com/case/feehan-v-wis-elections-commn-4

So, as I correctly pointed out, not a single trump lawsuit filed, so much as alleged fraud.

 

read the filings

 

You continue to post the same debunked nonsense over and over. You remain in denial and continue to ignore logic, facts & reality

One example

In PA 3.1m sent out; 2.6m returned

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

Keep on though - maybe one day it will finally click in that you have been conned