Poll: 46% of Republicans say Chauvin jury reached wrong verdict

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  1. Pollycy

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    "Secession is always a path for any of the states to keep their freedoms from the left"...?! :no:

    No, it definitely is not. Abraham Lincoln destroyed the 10th Amendment to the Constitution forever! Any state that would try to leave the federal government's power-oligopoly now would feel a boot in its face... or worse.

    A "secession" effort today might not result in over a 600,000 people being killed like there were in "the Civil War" -- but no -- today, there is no escaping mandatory membership in the Disunited States of America.
     
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  2. Pollycy

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    Mississippi...? There's nothing wrong with Mississippi that couldn't be cured by sending the rest of its welfare-sucking bums on up to Detroit, Columbus, Baltimore, and other hyperliberal septic tanks....
     
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    Good idea. We'll send PR's welfare sucking bums to Mississippi and make PR a state. Brilliant.
     
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    OR, how about this -- an even better idea! Let's send Mississippi's remaining welfare-sucking bums to Puerto Rico, and then buy enough corrupt government apparatchiks in SPAIN to have it reclaim PR and everyone there as citizens of the Spanish Empire!

    It would be a sort of a 'kill-two-rats-with-one-rock' solution! :lol:
     
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    Nah. Spain won't take them. Come to think of it, PR won't either. We're just gonna have to send PR's blood-sucking spittle wasting barroom brawling life threatening blood suckers to Mississippi. Mississippi would love to have them. Misery loves company the more the merrier etc etc
     
  6. Pollycy

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    Maybe you're right... if nothing else, between the venomous reptiles, the alligators, the giant feral hogs, and the hurricanes, maybe the problem would resolve itself... but that still leaves us with an equally onerous situation with Puerto Rico, however -- except for the part about the giant feral hogs... maybe....

    [​IMG]. "Nah, what we need is more SNAP benefits!" :knifefork: . :cynic:
     
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    Well, I did that job and I've used that technique successfully so you could probably say yeah, I do know more about the law and what happened.
     
  8. Pollycy

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    The jurors very obviously were terrified that they'd be 'outed' and get their houses looted and burned to the ground.

    Bottom line -- Chauvin was definitely guilty of extreme STOOPIDITY, and probably guilty of 2nd-degree manslaughter... yes.

    But both of the murder charges were nothing but baseless, hysterical bullshit! But, at least it kept Minne-EHH-polis from incurring yet another billion dollars or more in mob destruction and looting... (and it only cost the city $27,000,000 in a bald-faced payoff to the George Floyd tribe). :applause:
     
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    Minneapolis (CNN)The jury in the trial of former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin concluded its first day of deliberations Monday, according to the Hennepin County Court.

    Deliberations began at 4 p.m. CT and ended at 8 p.m. Jurors are being sequestered during deliberations and will spend tonight in a hotel.
    Jury concludes first day of deliberations in Derek Chauvin's trial - CNN

    I wonder why they were sequestered for the night after 4 hours of deliberation didn't yield a verdict yet?
     
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    I am certainly no lawyer. So it's just a guess.
    There were multiple reasons for the death? Knee? No EMT help?

    I bet he only gets sentenced for 1 of them? Unless there are multiple reasons for those 3 convictions.
     
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    Really. Link?
     
  12. dairyair

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    Since we've basically had the same 2 parties since the country's founding.

    I'd say they both do a good job of doing things to stay in power. And they work together to keep any other party from taking it.
     
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    There was no need the jury did not deliberate the facts and test the evidence as they should have. The verdict was determined before the opening statements.


    Chauvin juror says guilty verdicts could have come quicker
    "I felt like it should have been 20 minutes," Mitchell, 31, said of the deliberations, which led to Chauvin's conviction April 20 on all counts: second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter."
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/chauvin-juror-guilty-verdicts-could-have-come-quicker
     
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    We haven't though

    The present-day Republicans are a revival of the Federalists who in fact died after they went with the British in the War of 1812. They have remained a distinct minority party even since then who generally don't like the idea of America being a free country and seek to enslave us to a plutocratic nobility, much like what Britain overthrew in the Chartist Reforms of the 1840's
     
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    One Juror?
    That's why there are 12. 12 need to be convinced. 1 juror hung up can cause the case to mistrial.
     
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    The Republican party of old, used to be the liberal party. And the Dem party were the conservatives.

    The Southern USA has always been considered conservative and were almost all Dems up until the 1950s/60s.
     
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    Didn’t she say that about half of them were “deplorable”...?
     
  18. Arkanis

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    Racism does not come from crime.

    Of course, Chauvin is probably a racist. But that is irrelevant to the crime he committed.

    And the prosecution was right not to raise this point, because it would have weakened the evidence.

    The racism comes from those who believe he is innocent.

    Because if Floyd had been a good white guy, no reactionary Republican would have balked at sending Chauvin to rot in a cell.
     
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    You baseless attempts to smear Chauvin as a racist is just another tossing of the race card. There is NO evidence Chauvin is racist, the prosecutor never brought forth any evidence of him being a racist and no hate crime charges were filed and there has been no announcement he is under a federal investigation.

    Typical of the left when the merits of the argument are not on your side throw the race card.
     
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    False again the Southern US was liberal and populist Northern Democrats were liberal and the Republicans were conservative with some moderates.
     
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    Yes one OF the jurors speaking as to what went on in they jury room. They didn't want to deliberate the evidence and testimony and test it to the facts and it would have been over in 20 minutes had not one of the jurors had a question about the judges instructions.

    I am quite sure this interview will find it's way into the appeal filing.
     
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    You're right, Chauvin isn't a racist.

    He's just a murderer.
     
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    [​IMG]
    There really wasn't much to debate. There was a 9 minute video and the defense didn't mount any defense. The defense consisted of, he could have died by X, Y, Z, or AA and not the suffocation.

    It could have been over in 20 minutes. But it is best for there to be a discussion of all the facts before coming to a conclusion. Kudos to the juror who wanted to go over it all.
    That is why, there are 12 jurors and not 1.
     
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    Goes to show that a lot of people calling themselves Republicans today are not, and they live in their own alternate reality as designed for them by Fox News, online disinformation and Donald Trump.
     
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    Just stating the obvious:
    The GOP is now the party of racists, Jim Crow, and other disgusting bigots, so it is not surprising that so many members of the Republican Party would ignore criminal behavior if it involves systematic racism
    It was the KKK who gave their approval to the Worst President Ever Donnie.
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