It would make sense to ask the question on some black forums, if you are seriously interested in the answer.
He talked about Americans losing jobs to foreign nationals, Mexico and China. Stop lying. He did not speak in code he was very clear about this. He talked about stagnant wages and the loss of manufacturing jobs for everybody not just one color of people. . He never said, ever that minorities were stealing jobs from whites. I'm not sure Trump ever talked about whites as a group one time in his presidency. You are pushing lies.
It has to be a violation of forum rules to belittle a post based on the skin color of the poster. Can you imagine a white person here saying "Says the black guy" to a black poster?
What? Noting this is the opinion of a white guy somehow "belittles" him? Are you ashamed of your race? He's telling Black people to quit complaining and shut up. I gave evidence that Black people have a different opinion of their reality.
Opinions are like buttholes, Edna... everybody's got one.... And it is interesting that you automatically assume that I'm "White" merely because I have pointed out the reality of the factual situation of equality of the races in the United States for the past 56 years! You cited an interesting comparison of opinions, as measured by the Pew polling service, and it may or may not reflect actual fact. I however, pointed out the FACT (not mere 'opinion') that with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, ALL American citizens of ALL races (plus, sub-races, mixed-races, etc.), are the full, legal EQUALS of all other American citizens. Do you comprehend the difference between opinion and FACT...?
Your opinion that racial equality was reached in '65 illustrates the fact that you do not "comprehend the difference between opinion and FACT".
All (ALL) American citizens are equal before the law, Edna. Nothing else matters. We are a society and civilization based on the Rule of Law... And on that all-important foundation every American citizen is equal, pure and simple. The only legal exceptions have been for "crutch" social programs, such as "affirmative action", preferential minority set-aside status in a variety of government contracts, etc. These are FACTS, Edna... not mere opinions....
Yes, you attempted to belittle his post because of his race. Own it. He told no one to shut up. Censorship is a habit of the left, haven't you heard? The complaining he is talking about is the complaining by liberals, leftists, and Democrats (but I repeat myself) about supposed suppression of voting rights with color blind ballot protection laws. Most of the whiners are white. He said nothing in that post about Black people. I notice you're now calling me out by my race as well.
its a slang term for the middle of no where. like. really remote no mans land. if you want to know what the full meaning is though, google it. To say it would be against forum rules.
He was talking about everyone that was not white and failed or with a grievance. Like I said, be honest. (Oh yeah, it's against the cult rules)
He talked about illegals bringing crime and also keeping wages low. So answer the question. What rights do whites have that blacks do not? Your chart was nothing but opinion. Why are African immigrants doing so well in this country? Asians? Is this a pigment thing? Indian immigrants have household incomes double that of whites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
We can add the 14th amendment and dozens of court decisions that have guaranteed equal rights under the law. There is one area where blacks are shafted. Black victims of crime do not get justice because idiot libo prosecutors and politicians consider black criminals the victims. In Chicago when a black person is murdered only 22% of the time is the person who killed them brought to justice. This is woke Chicago with Lori Lightfoot and Kim Foxx. Black lives do not matter to them. https://www.npr.org/local/309/2019/...-solve-rate-even-worse-when-victims-are-black
To the contrary, Edna... if, in spite of the fact that all races have been formally made totally EQUAL to each other in the United States since 1965, but "yet the bitching and complaining goes on endlessly", then how is that justified...? Why is being treated EQUALLY BEFORE THE LAW OF THE LAND not enough...? Why isn't being treated equally before the law enough...? It is enough for all the other races and ethnicities in the United States.... What do you propose as a counter-solution? That we should put the entire Black population of the United States on some kind of free-ride handout welfare forever and ever, or provide entirely different legal systems that would apply only to them? You may want to reflect on what that kind of separate-but-equal methodology has done to Black Americans and the American Black family for more than the last fifty years -- very much as President Lyndon B. Johnson theorized when he and his pack of liberal Democrats dreamed up "the war on poverty" back in the 1960's.... Liberal Democrat President Lyndon Johnson's words -- not mine....
So you and, per the chart above, white older less educated conservatives believe "people" see discrimination where it doesn't exist. Those "people" are African Americans who suffer from discrimination that you and your compadres dismiss. Are you seriously dismissing the opinions of those fellow citizen whose living conditions are different than yours and saying they are without merit?
I'm not questioning the polling results. I assume they are accurate. But I do think that preconceived beliefs play a factor in the results of that polling. I'm white, and I got a citation from a white highway patrolman on an interstate freeway one time. I was going 65 MPH in a 65 MPH zone. You read that right. But I was towing a boat, and the law in that state was that, if you are towing, the speed limit is 55 MPH. Being from out of state, I didn't know that. A warning would have sufficed, but I was given a citation with a hefty fine. Obviously, there was no racial component to this event. But if the same thing happened to a black driver, what would they think? I think they would think that they got the citation because they were black, even though that particular highway patrolman would have given the citation to anyone, regardless of race. I have also been turned down for a job before. I have been turned down for a mortgage loan before. I have received poor service in restaurants before. The point is, is that these things can happen to anyone, regardless of the color of their skin, and it isn't necessarily because of racism. But if you believe you are constantly being discriminated against because of your race, you assign all of this to racism. I don't believe I have received any special treatment by medical services because I'm white. And I can't say that I've been mistreated by the criminal justice system because I don't commit crimes in the first place. But the truth is, is that life is full of ups and downs, wins and losses, victories and disappointments, no matter what race you happen to be. And when those downs, losses, and disappointments happen, you chalk 'em up to experience and do better next time. Winners in life don't cry in their beer, blaming everybody and everything for their woes. They pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and figure out how they can do better next time. "Experience is what we learn right after we needed it." I hold the abiding belief that their is no excuse for racial discrimination in this country. I also believe that people who need a hand up should have that hand extended to them. But I also believe it is a generally good country, and I am skeptical of claims that our country is one where "systemic" racism plays a role in persecuting black people and holding them back. For me and my friends, we believe that we all Americans, and that is all that matters. Seth
Rationalizing does make one feel better....as long you are unaware of the actual facts....one small example: We find no change in the levels of discrimination against African Americans since 1989, although we do find some indication of declining discrimination against Latinos. On average, white applicants receive 36% more callbacks than equally qualified African Americans.
You're getting personal again. It's a violation of forum rules -- not my rules -- and with good reason.
"White older less educated"? Who are the people discriminating against all these black folks? Certainly not people making $12 an hour working at Walmart. Who are these people? And again for the 555th time why are there so many people of color in this country doing even better than whites?
Here is an exercise for our libo friends. Find me a quote from Donald Trump where he talks about white people as a group. Where he mentions white people. I would love to see it. Based on the posts of libos here there should be dozens of posts where Trump and other republicans say whites are superior and supreme. Show them to me. There should be dozens of posts where he says the USA is a white country. Show them to me.
What does equally qualified mean? Did the study define that? Perfectly equal? Grades and the quality of education? I wonder. Would a white applicant from Harvard be considered equally qualified to a black applicant with a degree from Northeastern if both applied for a job in Boston? There are too many variables for a study like that. What about online applications where skin color would not even be known?
