Still contagious

This is why people don’t trust people like you. You spread disinformation. There is no approved or licensed adenovirus vector influenza vaccine. The only licensed vector vaccine is for Ebola and it was licensed in 2019 just before Covid struck. Adenovirus vector vaccines are not old proven technology.

Here are the facts for people who care about facts. The claim the Astra Zeneca vaccine is like any influenza vaccine in the US is blatantly false. There are three technologies used in the US flu vaccines. 1) Egg grown live-attenuated and killed whole virus vaccines 2) Animal cell grown killed whole virus vaccines 3) Subunit vaccines produced with recombination technology.

There has never been an approved adenovirus viral vector influenza vaccine—period.

For more information on adenovirus vector vaccine history that’s true, not made up nonsense, go here…
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072717769/
And here…
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072717404/

 

I can't tell you the number of times and someone has made a very specific claim here at PF and I simply Google their claim exactly as they made it and lo and behold they are full of feces. I'm still waiting on one in this thread to prove his claim he claimed that unvaccinated people are more at risk than vaccinated people from any risk group I tried googling that I saw no such information out there but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt perhaps he'll come back and prove that claim but it's been a good 6 hours and it doesn't look good

 

The cure for cancer (I mean 100% cure) will be announced this year, probably any moment now. Stay tuned.

 

I keep telling them if they want people to trust “science” they better quit providing disinformation about science. I’ve been warning them of the consequences of dishonesty on vaccination acceptance for almost a year now. It’s not sinking in…

Authoritarians would rather hold you down at gunpoint and give you the needle than be honest. The blatant authoritarianism I’m seeing here after several days of not having time to look around the Covid threads makes my skin crawl. If they don’t back off and get their collective feces together nobody that’s skeptical will ever get vaccinated.

 

The vaccine REDUCES your infectiousness, and your chances of being infected - but doesn't eliminate either. The primary purpose of the vaccine is to prevent you from being severely ill or dying, if you are infected. For this reason alone, you absolutely should be vaccinated. Please don't let the whackos influence you to risk your health and/or life.

 

SOME, but these were folk who were going to die from something any minute anyway. The extremely unhealthy, in other words. There's no saving those folks, regardless.

 

Not to mention how quickly you'll be insulted or on the receiving end of a condescending attitude simply for asking rational and logical questions you'll be dubbed and anti-vaxxer.... Keep trying to tell them if you wish to communicate effectively with others that's not very effective

 

I get that believe me I understand that but I'm still skeptical of this vaccine, developed in record time and put out under emergency authorization there has really been no time to study the long-term possible consequences or effects of this vaccination.

 

No, it's just ordinary Pharma propaganda, advertising brochure psychobabble.

But you're having fun, so keep on keeping on.

 

That sounds very much like an advertising brochure from Pharma. You might find a job writing for them.

 

That is all true, but in the end we have to weigh up the risks as they pertain to us individually. If there are long term cancer risks associated with these new vaccines, then folks over 50 have less to worry about that than someone who's 20. But folks over 50 have much more to worry about from COVID than those who are 20. So it kinda works out for us oldsters, ya know. I don't know how old you are, but if you are over 50, I wouldn't hesitate. It's not worth risking your life here and now. Better to live with a small increase in your cancer risk twenty years down the track.

 

I'm in medicine, so it's an occupational hazard.

 

Well I'm 40 years old so somewhere in the middle there

 

You're borderline, I guess. Probably not worth the risk unless you have any other impositions on your health. Diabetes, smoking, drinking, heart disease etc. If you're free from all those risk factors, then you could probably survive COVID. However if any of those factors are present, it's a gamble at 40. We've lost plenty in that age range, sadly.

 

You want the Johnson vaccine. It is made using the same process. The mrna vaccines are the other two.

 

Exactly the opposite is true. The problem is not the vaccine. The problem, as usual, is the government and its incompetent messaging.

 

Where is your CREDIBLE SOURCE for that allegation that "some end up in the hospital"?

 

The leaked memo. It’s been reported on.

 

What "leaked memo"?

Why is it so DIFFICULT for YOU to supply a CREDIBLE source for your allegation?

 

No it isn’t. Instead of mRNA it directly affects the cells nucleus. The possible danger of mRNA is the production of prions and the possible danger of J&J is cancer. None of these vaccines are dead or weak virus like normal vaccines. From what I have read they can’t do normal with corona viruses.

 

I swear people don’t know how to google.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

 

Some virologists will tell you that viruses are never alive. They will tell you that, when they contact a living cell, the cell itself reproduces the virus. Other virologists will tell you that viruses are inert like a plant seed. They come alive when they contact a living cell similarly to how a seed comes alive when it contacts water. None of them will describe a virus as alive or weak. So perhaps you have some details on how the Johnson vaccine was designed and produced and how it is abnormal?

 

It is not created from the virus, like mRNA it is en experiment.

 

I'm still waiting to see your evidence of the bolded claim.

 

It’s hard to pin down because this stuff isn’t well documented by the Biden CDC/NIH.

This will get us close. From the start of Covid to April 26 ish 2021 about 300 children under 18 died from Covid. There are around 74 million in this age group. So in 13 months 0.0004% of unvaccinated children under 18 died from Covid.

From December 14, 2020 to April 30, 2021 right at 100 vaccinated persons over age 71 died of Covid. There are 46 million Americans over 65 years of age. So in a 4.5 month period 0.0002% of seniors over 70 died. That number would go up a bit when we remove the age 65-70 population and account for the fact not all seniors were vaccinated.

So more than half as many vaccinated seniors died in one third the time period as we used for children. Clearly vaccinated seniors (over 70) in that time period died at a higher rate than the unvaccinated under 18 age group.

Is that what you were looking for?