Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases

I think they are right to fear him.

 

Those are the numbers California is reporting.
They have a total or 3.9 million cases, 2.1 million recoveries, and 1.8 million active cases.
Active cases are not totals from day one. They accumulate as the recovered come off the chart.

If the numbers are wrong, why wouldn't California be screaming about it?
With 39 million in population they have 100,000 active cases per million population
Florida has 112,000 per million pop
Texas has 108,000 per million pop

So yes, the California numbers are correct.

 

They are very afraid of DeSantis which is why they are focusing all their attention to Florida when California's numbers are 6 times worse per million population.

 

Gov Hair Grease is facing recall.

FL - 1.4% have active COVID
CA - 4.6%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

You show this as if its something profound. What point are you trying to make?

 

The words speak for themselves. Natural infection induces a strong lasting immune response, the vaccines are "hopeful" at best at doing the same.

 

Getting more and more tedious attempting to explain!
You've quoted total cases per million, NOT active cases per million!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Texas: Active cases = 134,000 --> 4640 active cases per million
Florida: Active cases = 308,000 --> 14,325 active cases per million
New York: Active cases = 114,000 --> 5,846 active cases per million

California: Active cases = 1,800,000 --> 45,570 active cases per million

The active case numbers are not updated!

You just have to look at Virginia to demonstrate the nonsense you are promoting
Virginia: Active cases = 626,000 --> 73,647 active cases per million

Do you really think that the active cases per million are 16 times higher in Virginia than they are in Texas? Do the people in Virginia have an immune system that is 16 times worse than Texans?

 

Delta is a game changer. Nothing anybody does will change that. Has nothing to do with your hatred of the Florida governor.

 

Yet we could not have obtained herd immunity by natural infection without massively higher death rates. So the vaccine offered a better route to that herd immunity.
If you are saying natural immunity is a good bet for the young then I would agree, though I must point out that you will still get that natural immunity after being vaccinated.

 

“The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint. There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good.”

That's a segment from what Justice Supreme Court John Marshall Harlan wrote when back in 1902 a case was brought against a vaccine mandate. Mandates might not be law, enacted fully as such, but they are lawful.

 

The so-called pro-life, so-called Christian right justifying sitting on their asses while people get sick and die by pointing to ignorant inconsequential comparisons. Heh, oh boy I would just love to see these people explain that one come the day of judgement.

 

FL sure as **** ain’t the Christian Right. And who sat on their asses? You’ve got it backwards. That’s what CA and NY did. People were forced to sit on their asses while they died. In FL people were allowed to work, go out and LIVE.

It’s sad and delusional to think the govt purposely destroying the lives of people is defined by “doing something.” They did NOTHING. They say back and let crime flourish forcing police to SIT ON THEIR ASSES!!! They watched. Businesses closed that never had to. Lives were destroyed that never needed to be. And they watched. People still died but at least all the businesses were destroyed too eh? What a remarkable achievement. At least the thugs in BLM and ANTIFA got to rob more people right? Destroy more shops right? Paint more graffiti? More people died in CA and NY than in FL. More total and more per Million. Any way you slice it, Democrat leaders in the largest states watched while their states crumbled, thinking bail outs were the cure. Yeah. Some cure. You still died but here’s some money that is worth a lot less, to watch TV while you died because you couldn’t work. You couldn’t save your business. But hey while your restaurant suffered, the Hollywood movie was allowed to serve food in the parking lot across the street. I guess donating money to politicians is helpful

So spare me. Look at the data. No matter how you interpret or spin it you can’t figure out a way to claim CA or NY has done better than FL. Can’t speak for Texas but it’s probably a tough sell there too. Texas did better too when you take into account deaths per million and the economy.

So lay off CNN. Stop listening to MSNBC. It’s irrational lies. Your hatred over believing what you want clouds your brain from reality. Hearing how terrible Desantis is makes you feel good when they lie to you. It’s just sad.

Please find all the articles of people flocking to live in CA and NY. Go ahead. Show all the people fleeing FL to go live in Leftist bastions of “people caring”. Go. Please. Shown how hard Leftist politicians worked to “save” people. This is such a joke. Do we need to dig up all examples of Democrat leaders saving people with the mandates THEY ignored? How they told people to stay home while they vacationed? How they told people to mask up while they didn’t? How they “fought” for black lives last year while buying up homes in all white areas Oh please.

 

That was during the same time that the SCOTUS determined Society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination was broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. Jacobson v Massachusetts, 197 US 11. Three generations of imbeciles are enough.

Jacobson was cited as support for the general principle that public welfare was sufficient to justify involuntary sterilization. The decision extended the police power’s reach from imposing a monetary penalty for refusing vaccination to forcing surgery on a young woman against her will and depriving her of the ability to have children. With the Court’s imprimatur of involuntary sterilization laws, more than 60 000 Americans, mostly poor women, were sterilized.

Jacobson was decided in 1905, when infectious diseases were the leading cause of death. Having a virus with a 99% recovery rate hardly fits. Hospitals were only beginning to take their modern form and people who had mental illnesses were often shut away in asylums. Contraception and interracial marriage were crimes, women did not have the right to vote, interracial marriage was a felony and Jim Crow laws prevented African American men from exercising constitutional rights.

A few things have changed since 1902. Even in an emergency, when there is a rapidly spreading contagious disease and an effective vaccine, the state is not permitted to forcibly vaccinate or medicate anyone. The constitutional alternative is to segregate infected and exposed people separately to prevent them from transmitting the disease to others. Here again, modern constitutional law demands a high level of justification. The Supreme Court has long recognized that “involuntary confinement of an individual for any reason, is a deprivation of liberty which the State cannot accomplish without due process of law,

The legitimacy of compulsory vaccination programs depends on both scientific factors and constitutional limits. Scientific factors include the prevalence, incidence, and severity of the contagious disease; the mode of transmission; the safety and effectiveness of any vaccine in preventing transmission; and the nature of any available treatment. Constitutional limits include protection against unjustified bodily intrusions, such as forcible vaccination of individuals at risk for adverse reactions, and physical restraints and unreasonable penalties for refusal.

The vaccine would have to be approved by the FDA as safe and effective, and any state law would have to require exceptions for those who have contraindications to the vaccine.

At any rate, Covid hardly qualifies for such limitations or laws. Having a survival rate of 99% wouldn't be any different than trying these laws for the common cold.

 

Hard truth: We could use a little of that these days.

As for the rest, do you know if any of this has been successfully challenged on a large scale since the 1900s? Because the basis of that very old ruling, that people don't have unmitigated freedom to damage society, is in keeping with the foundational concept that freedom by way of anarchy isn't freedom at all. A mask mandate is therefore fully lawful.

 

I couldn't agree more

If you are going to take away peoples right to choose, I don't see how you could do it over Covid. Healthy people don't die from Covid just like healthy people don't die from the flu. You don't have to answer the question but I will pose it anyway. If there was an Ebola outbreak in the US, would you put on your ear loop mask and wonder around with the masses? Of course not. Why? Because you would more than likely die.

If you were going to mandate mask you would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they had any benefit in protecting you from a viral contagion. Ear loop mask are not controlled respiration devices. They are fluid transfer devices. Viruses move via aerosol more than they do via fluid transfer. 90% of what you inhale and exhale from any ear loop mask moves through the path of least resistance which is around the edges. Not through the filter.

And while on the subject of filter, most viral contagions are in the .03 micron range (almost identical to Ebola) so even if you duck tapped the edges of your mask to your face, two things would happen. You would pass out eventually from carbon dioxide build up in your system and the 10-18 micron mask still couldn't filter the contagion.

So my answer would be no. Ear loop mask are not the answer and have very little (if any) value in protection from a virus.

 

First of all, that premise no longer exist and has been overturned. But more importantly, what will you mandate next? Are we going to mandate peanuts as an illegal purchase because they kill .02% of people who eat them? You going to mandate we put N95 filter systems on all automobiles air intake systems for cabin air?

The SCOTUS opinion you keep referring too was for smallpox, a virus with a 30% mortality rate and is still classified as one of history's biggest killers. And you are trying to compare it with Covid? Not even in the same world.

1. Covid has a recovery rate of more than 99.8% so why all the hysterics?
2. And you want a mandate a mask that has no ability to filter a virus? For what reason?

 

What kind of gorilla math is that. lol Jesus dude.

FL has 1.4% active COVID cases
CA has 4.6%

 

If the transmission is through the edges then the mask has reduced the distance traveled by any viruses

CO2 diameter = 0.33nm
Virus diameter = 100nm

Please explain how a mask reduces the transmission of particles that are 300 times smaller than the virus but not the virus

 

Looks like you have never attended any maths classes! You clearly don't know the difference between active cases and total cases. You clearly don't know how to work out total cases per million or total active cases per million. As I have implied, you are a lost case

Still waiting for you to explain "Do you really think that the active cases per million are 16 times higher in Virginia than they are in Texas? Do the people in Virginia have an immune system that is 16 times worse than Texans?"

 

I don't know, are people going to start spewing peanuts into their air with every breath?

 

OMG, listen, if you take the current active cases (which is the lower number) and divide them by the population, it gives you the percentage, not total numbers per million. Thats why your idiotic math doesn't work on any row of the very same chart you got the numbers from. That wasn't your first clue? lol

So here you are ranting about how every number on the chart must be wrong because your math doesn't work? So you think all of the THOUSANDS of scientist globally participating in providing this chart and updating it hourly are all idiots who never attended any math classes because you can't get your gorilla math to work on any provided numbers?

Coming from the guy who thinks his math proves Virginia has 73,647 active cases per million, I think I'll go with Occam's Razer here.
Jesus. What kind of hob nob school did you ever attend.

 

They don't have too. Peanuts kill as many Americans as Covid without the spewing.

 

WRONG, feel free to go to 1:11 of the video if you want to know why.

It doesn't reduce the transmission of CO2. Any time you put a filter on something you restrict air flow. You didn't know that? Your mask doesn't keep up with the volume and/or pressure you exhale which is why most of what you exhale goes around the outside edges and not through the mask. That would be basic common sense.

Hence why these mask were made for fluid transmission and not viral contagions.

 

LOL You're still promoting that crappy video!