Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases

You need to look up the definition of "daily rate", the topic of the thread

 

If you were really concerned with daily rate, you would be screaming about Biden letting in infected illegal immigrants into the country by 100K per month.
But we don't want to talk about that, do we?

 

So you have the daily rates that are linked to the illegal immigrants? How many illegal immigrants are entering Florida per day?

 

Where do you get that number?

People are saying two things:
1. Biden is letting people in
2. Record number is being arrested at the border

Either they are let in, or arrested. Pick one claim and run with it, because it can't be both.

Florida gets about 10 million visitors per month, so where do you think the priority should be (since you pretend to care about Covid)?

 

So if they are arrested, do you think they are not let in? Are they given a court date and let go free into society.

 

Nope, those are ignored as much as Kamala ignores the border.

Your fake outrage is showing again. If you had a problem with actual numbers (that include daily rates) you would be screaming about California that has 1.7 million infected with a population of 39 million over Florida's numbers with 309K infected with 21 million population showing California's rates are 6 times higher than Florida.

Spare me your fake concern over actual people.

 

No, they are returned. As a matter of fact, the Border Patrol says 30% of them are repeat offenders, which would be impossible if they were let in.

As a matter of fact they use Covid emergency rules to immediately return them to Mexico, which is why some individuals are trying multiple times,

 

You obviously aren't qualified to discuss the border problem or you (like most on the left) just decided to ignore it. Either way, I am not here to educate you on illegals who are arrested and released into the US.

And if you really had concerns about infected rates or people, instead of DeSantis bashing, you would be screaming about California's numbers being 6 times higher than Florida's with twice the population or the dozen other states that have smaller populations with 4 times rate of infected.

But its more important that you share this fake outrage than it is to be in touch with actual numbers. We get it.

 

Families are not arrested, only some single men. Families are let go to do as they please.

 

Well
Never have parallel hypothetical realities. We have what we have and the data shows it quite clearly. If people did the logical thing, we wouldn't need very many mandates. FL took a more hands off approach and trusted the people/businesses and overall, the results have been similar or better than states with heavy mandates and economy crushing policy. There is little to debate here because the data is readily available. The MSM isn’t publishing data that shows an honest picture. They are providing a narrative, one designed to make Republicans look bad. It’s deceitful and dangerous and it’s politics as usual. If the MSM did their job there would be less arguing because we’d all see the same data and the same honest perspective. They would highlight FL but also highlight CA. But then, the MSM is in the tank for Democrats so they can’t be trusted anymore. Their hyper partisan vitriol over Desantis is proof enough that they are using the same tactics they used against Trump. Lie and confuse people. We see it here in this thread and all over this board. Desantis Desantis Desantis just like Trump Trump Trump. If any of you people really cared you’d concentrate on the biggest problems. It wouldn’t be FL. It would be police. It’s the same old song and dance.

 

I am not on the left, and neither did I ask you to educate me on anything, since you are obviously not qualified to do so.

I'm not much of a screamer, but you scream enough for the both of us. I don't live in CA, I live in FL, and we have massive amounts of new cases here, and we get 10 million visitors per month. Besides, the FL cases per 1M people and deaths per 1M is higher than CA.

Keep screaming!

 

Sheriffs enforce the law. These mandates are not law.

 

Most arrivals are single men. Besides, you are misinformed.

From CBP:

 

If you don't think that the vaccinated can catch the virus and transmit the virus to new hosts, then I think you're probably behind the curve on this one.

 

Sure. If a private company has a rule that masks must be worn, then the sheriff will remove a customer who refuses to obey. After all, the private company has the law behind them.

 

For trespassing yes but the government mandates are not law.

 

So many people forget, no shoes, no shirt, no service, and NO SMOKING!

 

Florida has 307,000 Active cases right now with 21 million population
California has 1.8 million Active cases right now with 39 million population (6 times higher per capita)
Virginia has 635,000 Active cases with 8.5 million pop
Maryland has 448,000 Active cases with 6 million pop

And Florida is in the news as the state responsible for the highest rate of cases?
Seems a bit hypocritical

Border Patrol is reporting more than 1.1 million apprehensions at the U.S.-Mexico border this fiscal year. Border apprehensions have risen every month since President Biden took office and the Biden administration has exempted unaccompanied minors and migrant families from being returned to their country of origin even when they test positive for Covid.

I find it very partisan that Florida is in the news for infection rates when the numbers clearly show different data.

 

You have been gaslit.

 

They are enforceable. The only difference is how they came to be (created by lawmakers or by issues by government.

Mandate vs. law, what is the difference?
https://www.kulr8.com/great-falls/m...cle_016da119-a33f-56b8-8027-3ce8dcce3813.html
GREAT FALLS - In July, Governor Steve Bullock issued a mask mandate in counties with four or more active COVID-19 cases.

Since then, a lot of viewers have asked what's the difference between a mandate and a law? Many people say they are refusing to wear a mask because it's not a law. So, we looked into it.

A law and a mandate have the same power to be enforced. The only difference is how it came to be.


A law is passed by the senate and the house of representatives and signed by the governor. A mandate is made by the governor, with the power given to them by the legislature in a state of emergency.

Overall, a mandate has the same effect as a law. Health officers in the state have said everyone must comply with the Governor's mandate, which makes the mandate enforceable by health officers and police.

 

You would not say they if you understood the meaning of the word. The goal of gaslighting is to get people to doubt their own sanity.

 

Thank you for clarifying what you actually meant

 

Why do you find it a party issue?

Florida has massive number of new infections (21 000+ in a day)

You want people to talk about California, but their active case ratio per 1M is less than FL, as are their death rates. Their 7 day average is half of Florida, and their population is twice as big. Right now Florida is worst off. The positivity rate is off the charts (18.1%). Last year New York was worst off, and they were in the news every day. Partisan? I dont think so. YOU think so because you see everything along party lines.

Besides, the 1.8 million total active cases seems incorrect, because the numbers simply do not add up. Its not even close. The "cases per 1M" should have given you a hint, and obviously you never looked at the breakdown.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/california/

 

Just because they do a dump from as far back as May does not mean it is a one day total.

 

Now you're starting to catch on
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/