South Korea's ruling party calls for faster transfer of military control from U.S.

attacking other posters is all you have it seems

 

Trump has been gone for 9 months and Trump's deal was violated, thereby voiding the deal. I know it's real hard for you to accept this, but the Democrats 100% own this insane and stupid screw up. There is no one to blame this time. You own it for voting for a senile and stupid man. You own it. YOU.

Now can you actually get back on topic and leave the Trump 24/7 behind? The Bad Orange Man is gone now. He can't harm you anymore.

 

doesn't change a thing, it's still Trump's deal

that would be like blaming Trump for the ACA 8 Months into his presidency, nope, Obama still gets credit for that

this was a deal with terrorist with a timeframe we could not meet cause Trump did not start working on it right after he signed the deal like he should have

Trump did get the Taliban released from prison though, 5000 of them, many top Taliban leaders

 

Who cares? SK is free to do whatever they want.

And, about 2024?

ANYTHING is Possible.

Everybody should know that.
If an Unprepared Unqualified POS (like Trump) got elected in 2016 - Anything is Possible.

And, please give the Cutesy, Intelligence-Insulting, Ridiculously Sophomoric BS a Rest...

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Derail threads all you want. The staff doesn't seem to mind it at all.

The Democrats running the Biden Administration own this disaster, just like the border, just like our Energy implosion, just like the runaway crime in our cities.

Voting for Democrats means voting for the failure of America, which I think is the goal of the party.

 

yes, you are trying to derail this thread, why?

Trump never should have made this deal in the middle of a pandemic, he should have left the deal making to the next admin

 

Trump has been gone for 7 MONTHS!

NOT 9 Months...

Since January 20th. Today is August 20th.



That is 7 Months.

Did you lose your Calendar or are you just Mathematically-Challlenged?

 

ROFL! You were just crying and whining about "Trump kicking the can". Please try to pick which TDS propaganda you want to go with, so as to not contradict yourself so often.

The South Koreans appreciated Trump's work with the North Koreans. It was historic and positive. Now they are running like their hair is on fire as fast as they can away from China Joe and the Democrats.

South Korea hates Joe Biden. South Korea hates Democrats. Most of the world, except China, Russia, and the Taliban hate Democrats too. Democrats have become a scourge on the planet. They are not honorable people.

 

trump set a date and then kicked the can, if he was gonna kick the can, he should not of set a date and not released the Taliban prisoners before our people were home

 

Japan better get a few nukes built ASAP before Biden sells them out.

 

That is the smart move. Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan now know that they cannot rely on the U.S.A. anymore with Democrats in power. Even Australia is likely to now approve the new Chinese trade deals put forth.

China Joe and the Democratic Party has screwed over those that value freedom in the world.

 

Face it. A cowardly and dishonorable retreat took place while Biden was in charge. You liberals are like little kids blaming some other kid for what they got caught doing. What ever deal Trump made Biden was free to ignore as he has ignored many of Trump's policy initiatives.

 

You make zero sense. Go back and read MotherJones / DailyKos for a few hours and try to gather your propaganda back into understandable sound bites. Right now you're just coming off like a Liberal Arts student with multi-color dyed hair, nose ring, and with no idea what gender you should be this week.

We get it. With you everything is about the Bad Orange Man. But, you are making arguments now that even the Biden Administration is not making or forwarding.

 

you got nothing.... just more attack the messenger I see

 

this 20+ year war never should have happened, Biden is going to end it, I support that

too bad Trump did not have the balls to do the same

Trump gave the terrorists 5000 Taliban Prisoners, Biden no longer had that as a negotiation tool, Trump should have waited to release them until after our people were back home safe

 

What you support is a dishonorable and cowardly retreat. It does not matter what Trump was going to do. Trump is not in charge. He is a private citizen. Your boy Biden is in charge.

Running like a Rabbit does not demonstrate balls. Don't talk to us about Biden's balls. He is a draft dodger. Just as many student deferments as Dick Cheney and then a deferment for claiming to have Asthma. He could run, swim, and play football. But then when it came time to serve, Biden claimed to have Asthma. Your explanation for this draft dodging is what exactly?

 

Trump wasn't elected to restore global alliances as they were before January 2016. Biden was, and it looks like he's unraveling the defense pact with South Korea. Next up, we'll probably see Japan start to develop nuclear weapons and offer guarantees to Taiwan.

So Biden might have Mister Magoo'd himself into pushing Trump's agenda.

 

It is?

Disbelief and betrayal: Europe reacts to Biden’s Afghanistan ‘miscalculation’
‘This does fundamental damage to the political and moral credibility of the West,’ says senior German lawmaker.

BERLIN — Until Sunday, Europe thought Joe Biden was an expert on foreign policy.

Now, the American president’s decision to allow Afghanistan to collapse into the arms of the Taliban has European officials worried he has unwittingly accelerated what his predecessor Donald Trump started: the degradation of the Western alliance and everything it is supposed to stand for in the world.

Across Europe, officials have reacted with a mix of disbelief and a sense of betrayal. Even those who cheered Biden’s election and believed he could ease the recent tensions in the transatlantic relationship said they regarded the withdrawal from Afghanistan as nothing short of a mistake of historic magnitude.

“I say this with a heavy heart and with horror over what is happening, but the early withdrawal was a serious and far-reaching miscalculation by the current administration,” said Norbert Röttgen, chairman of the German parliament’s foreign relations committee. “This does fundamental damage to the political and moral credibility of the West.”

Röttgen, a senior member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats, is no flamethrower. He has known Biden for decades and was optimistic about his prospects.

While Merkel has avoided direct criticism of Biden, behind the scenes she has made it clear that she considered the hasty withdrawal a mistake.

“For those who believed in democracy and freedom, especially for women, these are bitter events,” she told a meeting with officials from her party late Monday, according to German media reports.

In the U.K., which like Germany supported the U.S. engagement in Afghanistan from the beginning, the sentiment was similar. “Afghanistan is the biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez. We need to think again about how we handle friends, who matters and how we defend our interests,” tweeted Tom Tugendhat, the Conservative chair of the U.K. parliament’s foreign affairs committee.

At a time when some European leaders, including French President Emmanuel Macron, have been pushing for the bloc to pursue a security policy less dependent on America, Afghanistan is bound to be used as evidence for why “strategic autonomy” is necessary.

“Naturally this has damaged American credibility, along with that of the intelligence services and of the military,” said Rüdiger Lentz, the former head of the Aspen Institute in Berlin.

“One can only hope that the damage to America’s foreign policy leadership can be quickly contained.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-reacts-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal/

 

Don't forget Biden won the election and claimed he could better handle it he was the expert. Wrong. Trump's withdrawal was condition, Biden's was an announced unconditional. Stop trying to blame Trump for Biden's unapparelled foreign policy disaster.

 

I support the US pulling out of Afghanistan and bringing home our troops. I also support NATO allies finally not wanting to rely so heavily on the US military.

Two of the very few points I agreed with trump on and now his supporters seems against it. Other nations have been saying for years they could no longer depend on the US with our rollercoaster shifts in political ideology between each administration.

 

Word is Biden is sending Veep Throat to smooth things over with our Asian allies.

I bet she comes back with a new nickname, cackling devil or hyena demon or something.

 

The Taliban is a warrior culture. They always have been. The American military is a warrior culture (though our politicians obviously are not part of that culture). They always have been. The average Afghani, especially after the last 20 years, is not a warrior. They may carry guns, and patrol occasionally, but when things get difficult, they flee. Even if they wanted to fight it, they couldn't. I believe that is something that takes a generation at least to instill in a population, and with us doing the heavy lifting over the last 20 years, it has not allowed the warrior mentality to take root in the afghan people. I think it would take at least another 10 to 20 years of us advising and training them (not doing all the hard fighting for them) for that to start to grow.

We took too long to allow the Afghanis to do the fighting I think. They became soft. But just abandoning them at this point to fight their own wars is a death sentence.

 

Yeah, I sure as hell wouldn't trust the US for long term commitments if I was another country. Nope.

 

good for South Korea ... let them deal with their own problems ...

 

Boden could have made a better deal, but sadly Trump already made the deal and released the 5000 Taliban prisoners, many of which were part of the wave of Taliban that took over Afghanistan