Is there any good news for the Conservatives?

Unfortunately for the GOP they don't have as much of an advantage in the free **** department.

 

Those are pretty lines and Biden Economy is fanfkntabulous!

 

It had a definite effect.

Unlike the MAGA's on this forum, I am not lying to myself.

But considering that Biden still has a 10% higher approval rating than Trump at the same point in his presidency, despite the crisis in Afghanistan, I'm sleeping soundly.

 

The right wing is off the rails with their falsehoods about Biden's watch and passing downright Talibanesque laws in Texas. They're self-destructing and it's happening pretty rapidly.

 

Fake news. The most partisan districts are Democrat drawn by democrats. If you want more competitive districts, draw some.

Biden Rule.

Fake News. As patriotism increases, the likelihood of voting GOP increases as well.

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Hispanics and Blacks are much more patriotic than Progs and Libs, that is why the country keeps getting redder.

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We're the wave of the future, the arc of history is bending you over.

Loves America!​

 

It's Freedom/Liberty vs the Authoritarians.

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Americans consistently choose Liberty.

Loves Freedom/Votes Republican.​

 

The best news for Conservatives Inc. is apparent for all to see each time the President has to address the public.

 

Funny how that only matters now. When Trump's approval numbers were better than Obama's at times such was dismissed.

We'll see. But there is no guarantee. If however past trends continue Republicans will gain at least one of the two.

Republicans will remind everyone how Biden left behind US civilians. As for the gains in employment, what did you expect? Millions lost their jobs due to Covid, that there is a gain is a no brainer and not attributable to Biden. Particularly since no bills have been passed that can be attributed to the gain.

Even if he does actually run in 2024 he more than likely won't get the primary. At least not for the Republican Party. He'll run as an independent, and yes, that will hurt Republicans.

Assuming he runs. Whether or not he has to deal with Trump is yet to be seen. But assuming he does it is not uncommon for such criticism between contestants. So yeah, I'm sure he will criticize Trump.

Don't count on this. Yes, the election was rigged. Dems have admitted as much. Though they try and pass it off as "saving the election".

This is nothing new and is not going to make any difference.

Yes, with the Media's help and Big Tech's help Dems do have a strong position. But don't discount them yet. Biden is not exactly a strong President. The Immigration Crisis is not slowing down and will no doubt become a big part of the next election, again. And Biden's actions on that is against what the majority of Americans want. Add to that various other flubs he has done and there's plenty of ammunition for Republican's to use against him. Not to mention there is no guarantee as of yet that he is actually going to run in 2024. A lot, if not most, don't even believe him to be fit NOW. And his condition is only going to get worse...and the signs more obvious. So that will more than likely leave Kamala running. And she will be DOA. She's done an even worse job that Biden. Add to that the fact that she couldn't even make it into the top 10 contenders this last election and her favorability is in the tank for a Presidential run.

 

Not true.

Trump has always been more unpopular than Obama throughout his presidency.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

International policy issues are only secondary issues in presidential elections.

It's the economy.

Then Trump deserves no credit either.

This isn't where our views differ.

Unlike every candidate who has lost the election, Trump doesn't want to leave the public arena.

He's still raising money, doing rallies, doing interviews.

He isn't leaving any room for a potential successor.

And he, more than any other factor, will ensure Biden's re-election.

When you REALLY believe the election was rigged, you don't vote.

 

They seem to be enjoying the resurgence of Covid variants and Biden's struggles in Afghanistan.
Anything that can be turned into a political football is good news to them.
No matter how hypocritical or dishonest.

 

The Republican's? Yeah, they'll use every dirty trick in the book and and write new ones - vote repressive laws and they'll lie; They'll rely on BIG Lie's now.

 

LOL.. .good stuff. Keep dreaming on the black and latino camps after Trump's aftertaste. I'm actually fine with guns, but not patriotism. Patriotism, or nationalism, is a social disease of the worst kind - an illogical faith (redundant phrase) worse than traditional religions. Too bad we didn't learn that thoughtless flag waving is destructive from world war 2. How did Hitler get so many Germans to become monsters? Patriotism. I'd explain better, but not sure if it's worth the effort yet.

 

They are going to get to overturn Roe Vrs Wade soon. At least they have that to look forward to.

Many states have trigger laws that go into effect the moment that happens. many of those laws will send women to jail if enacted in the way they are worded.
Some even have clauses that FORBID you from going to a state where abortion is legal to obtain one.

To bad they only care about that child up until birth.

Conservatives want to force woman to give birth against their will, and they are winning this fight.

 

Flawed Logic
i) Maxwell misused his silver hammer,
therefore,
ii) all silver hammers are bad.

ii) does not necessarily follow i) and in the real world there are abundant examples of love of each other and the liberal principles that are the foundation of our social compact, being very much a force for good.

I suspect that you are deeply infected with anti-Americanism and for the most part that seems to be incurable. Sad!

 

Excellent

 

That wasn't the logic, just an example. Nationalism/patriotism is about being proud of your country (without evidence, or despite evidence to the contrary, i.e. faith). This easily becomes an argument against the country making mistakes, or that other inferior countries need to be made more like ours or subjugated for our benefit (America the former, Nazis the latter). This leads to destructive decisions not rooted in reality. In reality, the decisions and attributes of a country are not above questioning and it's very important to critically analyze the effects of policy. We can embrace the good things about the country while also pointing out and trying to fix the bad. America does have good attributes, but without a doubt also many missteps (Vietnam, Afghanistan, slavery, manifest destiny, etc.). That's called being logical. Patriotism is one of the more destructive enemies of logic and truth.

 

Fake News, you used an illogical example.

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Fake News. The National Socialists of Germany were an Authoritarian system of top down control forbidden by our constitution.

The thesis statement of our society is stated in the Declaration of Independence:

In America, that is the purpose of government.

They are ALWAYS under question as government must constantly be restrained by We The People, as government will always attempt to escape restraint and begin to exercise UNjust power, generally starting with small exercises of illegitimate power and if they get away with that, move on to larger displays of unjust authoritarianism. The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance and we must constantly be pruning our government in order to keep it focused on more perfectly securing OUR freedoms and liberty rather than their own self-serving pursuits.

This is an endless task we receive from our parents and pass to our children.

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Of course, and we must do so effectively, that is our solemn duty as Free Citizens.

In America, Patriotism is simply our commitment to more perfectly securing each other's inherent rights.

Be Well and Prosper!

 

So much wishfull thinking in this thread.

You also pick and choose the polls that best fit your narrative.

Let's start with the house. No way you will keep the house. Even Democrats are saying it won't happen. Even without redistricting the house is not in your favor.

The Senate is a toss up at best and the polls support this. Your best chance of flipping a seat is PA and some polls have that at about 50/50.

Lastly polls show independents are not favouring Biden right now.

So unless you want to go into detail on the house and Senate races then your post is nothing more than a liberal day dream.

 

Wishfull thinking. Everyone I know plans to vote out as many Democrats as possible.

 

You, sir, apparently know some real Americans.

 

You only won the GA races due to many Republicans choosing to stay home. That won't happen again. Republicans saw thier mistake and will definantly get out and vote next time.

 

Conservative, liberal, whatever. The fact is August was a bad month for Democrats.

Biden’s overall job approval/disapproval numbers:

1 Aug 51.3% approval, 45.9% disapproval/31 Aug 46.3% approval, 48.6% disapproval


Generic congressional vote

1 Aug Democrats 48% Republican 41% D plus 7/31 Aug Democrats 46% Republicans 44% D plus 2.


Direction of the Country, right track/wrong track


1 Aug right tract 40%, wrong tract 53%/31 Aug right tract 30%, wrong tract 61%


Now I wouldn’t blame all of this on Afghanistan, although Afghanistan was the wakeup call which meant Biden not being Trump ins’t enough for the voters anymore. Especially independents. The honeymoon is finally over after 6 months. Other issues that have fallen in August.


Immigration 1 Aug 42% approve, 54% disapprove/31 Aug 34% approve, 57% disapprove


COVID 1 Aug 62% approve, 38% disapprove/31 Aug 53% approve, 43% disapprove


Economy 1 Aug 55% approve, 45% disapprove/31 Aug 46% approve, 49% disapprove


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

The good news for Democrats is this happened 14 months prior to the midterms. If you're going to have a bad month, 14 months out is the time to do it. Plenty of time to recover. The bad news is that independents have forgotten about Trump, he's now ancient history. So from here on out, what happens in the midterms will be determined by what Biden and the democratic controlled congress does or doesn't do. How that is perceived by independents. As long as Biden and company don't make independents angry at them, they're in pretty good shape. At least at the moment as Afghanistan fades into the distant past and memory.

 

You wish for moderate right wingers but if that is all the party had you would then find another reason to dislike them. If they aint left liberals you don't want them in power

So your strategy for Biden winning in 2024 is to hope many conservatives choose not to vote? If that's all you have then you already lost.

Those laws are the same laws that have been in states like CO for over 10 years and people there have no problems voting in Democrats.

Also WI was lost by only 20,000 votes in 2020. That's only a 10,000 vote difference from 2016. What makes you think the GOP can't win in WI? AZ was even closer in votes.

Did you forget these laws were already in other states and do not make it harder to vote?

What is so bad about requiring voter ID?

That was a well thought out response. I like how you even showed him the map and the state's most at play.

He seems to not know how elections or swing states work.

 

Welcome to the Red Wave. MAGA 2024.

 

Keep the faith brother!