Georgia Republican Official Compares Trump To Satan, Says He’s Out to Steal The Party’s Soul

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    Therefore, a definition of life isn't in the law?
     
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    You posted life is defined. How does that life definition apply in the law?
     
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    Now that you know this .. quit claiming the Constitution is about utiliterianism.. and start learning about why utilitarianism stealing the soul of the nation .. .. oh .. sorry .. my bad - you don't care .. :)
     
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    Your implication isn't that the scientific definition for life is also the legal definition for life?
     
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    The Constitution is utilitarian.
     
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    No idea how you came to that conclusion .. but it is an abject falsehood .. regardless .. what does this have to do with your claim that a potential life should have rights.

    Since that life does not yet exist .. it matters not what the definition of life is. unless of course you wish to define nothing as something .. and put that into law...
     
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    There is no definition for life in American law.
     
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    Who cares .. not releveant - as there is no life ... aside from the fact that American Law uses many definitions for life - such that your claim is patently false. Never heard of a "biocide" bio being life - cide being the latin for Kill- and all the regulations governing their use and labeling and so on. Never heard of toxicity limits Lethal Dose what do you suppose "Lethal Means" .. killing a chair ?

    OK .. this is the point where the silliness has come to the point of
    Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It
     
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    I predict the future headline: Lt. Governor Duncan primaried.

    Prior to that, don't be surprised if the Republican legislature responds by taking away some of his authority; and if media pundits advocate for his ouster from the GOP.

    Why not, Rod? In fact, could you explain by what criteria you could possibly consider Trump a, "conservative," because he appears to me as anything but.

    I would love to actually see you make the case for your proclamation which is, otherwise, an empty & disregardable claim. I am sincerely curious to understand how you could arrive at such a view. Would you be so good as to lay out your thinking for us, as to actually put forth an argument, comparing Trump to each of the Bush Presidents (more especially, G.H.W.), to Reagan, to Nixon (and to Ford)?
     
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    Like I said the sycophancy for Trump is cultish.
     
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    Yep, all the conservative values he pushed with one exception, fiscal.
     
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    Aren't we debating whether a fetus is a life?
     
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    Castigating someone for even entertaining the notion that Trump may be sympathetic isn't cult-like?:roflol:
     
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    Wrong on both counts .. no wonder you seem way off the page. We are debating a zygote - and whether or not it is a human. We already know the zygote is a alive.
     
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    I never claimed Trump was/is a true conservative. My post said Trump is [at best] a so-so conservative. However, his actions as president were predominately, but not all by any means, constitutional conservative.
     
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    Aside from the fact that being fiscally conservative has always been an essential part of being a "conservative," I'd still be interested in hearing your detailing of all of Trump's other, "conservative values." Being anti-immigrant, I don't believe, is part of any true definition of, "conservativism." And I'm not sure that simply being, anti-tax, and anti-regulation, is enough to qualify. (You might want to try for Libertarian, instead, but I think some problems will surface with that denomination, as well).
     
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    What you said, was:

    RodB said:
    It is not possible to be both a true conservative and a never Trump Republican.

    So it seems hard for me to square your claims that it is, "not possible to be a true conservative," if one does not back the "so-so conservative," Trump. Even if we accept for argument, that "his actions as president were predominately, but not all by any means, constitutional conservative," why could a true conservative not also believe that Trump has no respect for democratic principles, and is a threat to our American system, for example, and so then be opposed to Trump? Or why would it delegitimize someone's being a true conservative, even if they could not support the idea of Trump as the leader of our nation, merely on personal grounds: that he was crass, crude, or of poor moral character? Just because a person's actions, as president, would be "predominantly, but not all by any means," those of a constitutional conservative, does not seem, to me, like it should preclude the possibility of any true conservative having a major objection to his leadership.
     
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    Again, more falsehood. Trump was pro immigrant but not pro illegal immigrant. More than that and first he was pro American which even democrats USED to be.
     
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    As if the Republican Party has a soul.... or the Democratic Party.... or any Party.
     
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    OK, so the only reason I have to speculate as to what you consider Trump's "conservative," pedigree, is because I'm still waiting for you to detail it, for me.
     
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    Pretty much everything he accomplished except spending. I know the left thinks only words are action and ignore the action.
     
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    Well, is a zygote a human life?
     
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    True conservatives really like Trump's conservative actions and accomplishments and are not really bothered by what some might say his philosophical bent. I never said that conservatives don't have some negative views of Trump the person or even some of the things that he did as president. But that is a long long way from being a never Trumper, and conservatives almost always follow substance over style. There are many high level never Trumpers, a moniker commonly reserved for Republicans, but you would be hard pressed indeed to find a true constitutional conservative among them, starting with the two (or 3 or 4 or 5 or....) Bushes.
     
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    Being anti illegal immigration, anti-tax, and anti-regulation most certainly are characteristics of a true constitutional America loving conservative.
     
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    I'm not going to try to twist your arm, but your reticence to enumerate the great one's "conservative," accomplishments, is notable.
     
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