Georgia Republican Official Compares Trump To Satan, Says He’s Out to Steal The Party’s Soul

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Addressed in the post you are responding to but,

    1) What about them ? What about the liberties of the cow you ate for dinner, or the tomato. Do these innocent living creatures not deserve rights along with the mighty zygote - and on what basis ?

    2) Let us assume you managed to answer (1) - found some legitimate justification for giving the zygote some rights (which is not a fetus btw - do not conflate the two) - cruelty to animals would be an example of such legislation.

    3) Now we have a clash of rights between the zygote and the woman - in such cases we then have to make a determination of which rights are more weighty on the scales of justice .. on one side we have the highly valued rights of the woman .. on the other side you have ?? - good luck making a case for the value of the rights of the zygote being greater than the rights of the woman.

    4) Do you think the power of Gov't should be limited - if so on what basis.

    5) In the US - Gov't is to have no legitimate authority to mess with essential liberty unless it can get consent from the people - consent required by the founding principles is 67% .. so regardless of what you come up with for 3) it matters not if it is not the will of an overwhelming majority of the people.
     
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    So now it's a "so what", but you continue with invalid accusations.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    I provided the links, it is recorded history.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure - along with Classical Liberalism and Rebpulicanism .. and think we can almost prounounce the patient dead on both counts.

    What have these idologies been replaced with ?
     
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    Conservatism was replaced by republican populism where anything that "tickles the ears" is supported and anything else is called unamerican (which means libertarian views are considered unamerican)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your post makes no sense .. Name-calling - demonizatoin of the other - is not a political ideology - but if it were - Blue would be just as guilty.

    Classical Liberalism and Republicanism for example both have respect for essential liberty - limited Gov't authority - consent of the governed.

    The claim on the table is that this ideology is dead. What has replaced it ? Do Republicans and Democrats no longer have respect for the above ?
     
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    This is very true, I agree with you on this.

    Only, 40 years ago, RINOs were Republicans who didn't adhere to the platform.

    In 2020, the Republican Party did not even have a platform. Did you know that?

    A platform was NOT voted on at the 2020 Republican National Convention.

    So, actually, all of those acolytes who followed that ******* Trump without even having a platform to guide them are really the RINOS, here.

    These days, decent human beings who don't like to parrot lies are being called "RINO"s by frothing-at-the-mouth, emotionally stunted, intellectually challenged, violence-prone, thuggish, jack-booted henchmen for one lying Donald J. Trump. I am sure that good old Adolph, were he alive today, could not possibly be prouder.

    It's really very sad to see.
     
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    I didn't call anyone any name. Don't play the victim card with me. It won't work.

    I told you: populism replaced it.

    Not sure why you say "republicanism". Republicanism is simply support for a state which is formed as a republic. Conservatism is for smaller govt, but GOP trash-canned it when populism was introduced about 5 yrs ago.
     
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    Holy mind bending nonsense batman .. no one called you a name .. You were the one that said that name calling and demonization of the other was the ideology of the GOP.

    I pointed that name calling and demonization of the other is not a political ideology - and gave you examples of political ideology used to be - republicanism - classical liberalism both - as their core ideology are supposed to respect essential liberty - want limited Gov't authority.

    Now you obviously have no idea what republicanism or classical liberalism are - as evidenced by your description above . or what a political ideology is... what a "Constitutional Republic is" or what the founding principle is.

    So

    1) The founding principle is respect for essential liberty - limited Gov't power
    2) Constitutional republic puts essential liberty "Above" the legitimate authority of Gov't"
    3) Both Classical Liberalism and Republicanism refer to 50+1 or "simple majority mandate" as "Tyranny of the Majority"

    Now ... the question to you is - regardless of what you think the word "Classical Liberalism/republicanism means" - meaning you don't have to know to answer the question ... What has this been replaced with ?
     
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    Are you referring to a particular post?

    You want me to tell you for the 3rd time? Its like talking to a wall.
     
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    These things sometimes happen....
     
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    Just had to follow Godwin's Law, didn't you???
     
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    You said I had accused you of name calling .. I did no such thing ... for the third time .. "Like talking to a wall"

    What part of "you were not accused of name calling" do you not understand ?
     
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    Me:
    Your response:
    Did you think you were talking to someone else, or where did the name-calling stuff come from?
     
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    You were the one who accused me saying you were calling names .. I did no such thing ... the name calling stuff came from you.
    Populism is not a political ideology- just as name calling is not a political ideology that relates to essential liberty or limited Gov't power.

    The reason I say "Republicanism - is because it is a political ideology - same as classical liberalism - and in fact both are very similar .. in that they both respect essential liberty - and limited Gov't power.

    The new "Ideology" w/r to essential liberty and limited Gov't power - is Utilitarianism.
     
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    Don't think a cow is a potential human.:roll:
     
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    You claim that the Trump campaign's informing Russia of 2016 election statistics is far worse than the brother of the campaign manager of the Hillary campaign being an agent of the Ukraine who didn't register with the American gov't (I believe one of the charges against Manafort by Mueller was Manafort didn't register as an agent of the Ukraine). The Ukraine also openly campaigned for the Hillary campaign.:roflol:
     
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    Factual evidence isn't lies, innuendo or gossip.
     
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    The main problem with a dearth of libertarianism in America is the resultant unwillingness to compromise which leads to a destruction of American gov't..
     
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    The 2 Republican led Senate committees thought so too :)
     
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    From one who has no evidence. :)
     
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    Who told you a cow was a potential human - you really need to vet your sources of info better :)
     
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    Sure .. but this has nothing the move of Red and Blue away from Classical Liberalism/Republicanism -
     
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    So they were hypocritical, too.:roll:
     
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    From one who didn't have any evidence the Trump campaign worked with Russians to interfere in the 2016 election even though that investigation went for 2+ years.:roll:
     

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