College enrollments drop 6.5%,lowest in 50 years.

Not only is unemployment setting records but so is the LACK OF ENROLLMENTS in our nations colleges and universities. Enrollments have dropped 6.5% since the Covid pandemic began 2 years ago, to their lowest level in 50 years. People are not working and they are also not attending college??? What the hell are they doing?? Story is currently available on Drudge Report.

 

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There has been a war against education by the extreme right for the last couple of decades. Rush, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Alex Jones... Drudge ... And the results are clear: anti-vaxxers, QAnon, Climate Change denialism, more white supremacists, ... and on and on... A drop in education is how all empires fall. Will we be next?

 

Lets hope not we already rely on Asians and Indians to supply a great many of our learned citizens, especially in the medical fields.

 

The only war has been against the cost and the near total control the Left has over it. And it’s bearing fruit that many degrees aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. Employers are coming to grips that a college degree doesn’t guarantee the basic skills that we once thought we needed because they’re NOT BEING TAUGHT ANYMORE.

Hard sciences, medicine, law, and anything that requires real certification needs higher education. Certain fields need degrees but many don’t. But simply owning a business, anything creative, and even in tech, it just isn’t needed. It helps. But I’ll take an excellent coder or designer with no degree over some guy/gal with a supposed excellent degree but can’t show the knowledge or skill. And I’m not alone at all. And masters degrees are almost like toilet paper now that any schmo can get one.

Both my kids are already paid for, but they’re not in HS yet. There’s time and things are changing. I want them to go but depending on where their skills are, it might not be necessary. I still want them to experience college but what I remember and what is in the NOW, its not the same. Not anymore.

 

So you think there is a drop in enrollment due to an imaginary war on education lead by Tucker and Rush from the grave?

 

I don't know how you missed it, but enrollment started dropping when colleges started marginalizing white people and taking points away from them for being white while giving bonus points to minorities. There is also the complete lack of free speech and thought on college campuses these days, unless that thought and speech is liberal, so that's another reason why people might not be enrolling. We can then talk about how colleges want to segregate dorms and classrooms by color and that's no bueno. And why would anyone incur a mountain of debt just for a degree in gender or African studies when there are no jobs in those fields? Plus, what's been getting a lot of attention these days is how tuition has climbed to the point of absurdity. The number of high paid college administrators has grown tremendously with many of them being some sort of racial or inclusion officer willing to stomp on a white person for the exact same thing a minority was allowed to get away with. Why would anyone want to pay tons of cash for that? And it's no secret that many colleges are teaching socialist and communist propaganda and some colleges even joined up with the chinese communist party. I'll bet that news doesn't make it onto CNN very much, but that doesn't mean people don't hear about it.

If colleges had a good product to sell at a fair price then people would be enrolling. Guaranteed government backed loans allow them to charge whatever tuition they want, they get the students to sign up for a lifetime of debt, and now the students just might be seeing through all that BS.

 

So college kids are now watching Fox News. You should have saved that joke for SNL.

 

That is a signal that young people are tired of being indoctrinated. Maybe they are learning trades.

 

What's funny is thinking that one can only be educated if they go to a college or university. There are many ways to get educated on things. Not just those two. Trade School for example has lots of different things you can learn...and for a hell of a lot cheaper. (some of them are even free) And the best part? You don't have to take extraneous classes that are worthless.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/26/due...nt-saw-largest-two-year-drop-in-50-years.html

I am not sure what type of comments you are expecting. I read the story and it offers no theories on why the enrollments are down. I am sure we will have people speculate and give partisan views on why this is happening but it is hard to comment without more information. I speak to a lot of new hires fresh out of school but none have mentioned lower enrollments. The article did mention the most selective colleges notched enrollment gains up 4.3% to return to pre-pandemic levels. That doesn't surprise me because most desirable school have a huge rejection rates so I would expect enrollment would be un-effected there. The article seems to imply the decline is at the community college level. That seems to imply young people going on to college to prepare for a career or a profession are probably not impacted. So if you want to be an engineer or doctor nothing has probably changed. Community college often appeals to adults wanting a career change or who choose to get an education later in life. Maybe the reason those numbers are down is because of the large number of available jobs right now. For that group if it is easy to get a job maybe they do not feel the need to go back to school. It is hard to say without data.

 

Just what the Chineses flu and DNC wanted them to do.. You get a chance, check out the average education the folks living in the DNC ghetto's get.. And then apply that data to whom they vote for on average and you will discover a correlation between the two

 

Many smaller colleges are actually going out of business due to declining enrollment over the past few years.

 

The point is that OUR WORK FORCE does not reflect an increase in applicants for jobs to accommodate these NON STUDENTS.

 

My immediate guess would be that all the talk about FREE College, has led some to postpone shelling out cash, just in advance of this anticipated change. Word is, however, that Senator Manchin's conditions for supporting the legislation that was going to pay for it (the human infrastructure, reconciliation bill), included killing this provision-- which, as an aside, is kind of a head-scratcher, to me, unlike provisions that might affect coal-mining, or provisions that would not seem to especially benefit West Virginians. So, perhaps, those who were waiting for the free ride (and who could blame them?) will enroll for the January semester, or next year, giving an atypical boost to those numbers.

As for unemployed people not looking for work, a large portion of them have apparently, with the extra cash the govt. has sent their way, during the pandemic, decided to try to start their own businesses.

 

there is little economic value in a university education with the current pricetag attached to the student loans racket, and there is no excuse for that price tag anymore. Those prices should have begun dropping dramatically with advent and opportunity for online learning. Unless the passion for the profession/work requiring the degree is so strong, you can't imagine being happy without it, I personally would not recommend going. Its too hard with housing prices, lower wages for part time jobs etc only to get trapped in that cycle with a student loan hanging over you too.

 

The only 'war' involved is that waged against poor kids. A war waged by Progressives - who encourage such kids to take degrees which won't get them a job. Those who foster the idea that poor kids can approach college as though they will never have to work for a living. They're the b@stards doing all the damage.

Every moderate and conservative I know, is very invested in seeing less wealthy kids take courses which will keep them out of poverty - whether via STEM degrees, or licensed Trade apprenticeships/traineeships. Courses which lead directly to well paid full time work, so that any loans are easily paid down - and which will keep the person employed for life.

 

BS. A STEM degree in a high demand field, will pay exceptionally well on graduation, AND there will be plenty of jobs. Student loans are nothing in comparison to what is earned.

Student loans are only a disaster for less wealthy students who choose courses which won't secure well paid work. IOW, kids who were encouraged to ruin their lives by people who evidently hate them.

 

Nothing here is worth commenting on other than to say you can't, and won't even try, to back any of this up.

On topic:

College enrollment should drop as far too many are blowing thousands on worthless degrees that don't lead to jobs. Maybe people are finally realizing that their liberal arts degree that yields nothing in return isn't worth the crippling debt.

 

I would imagine that's a big part of it. The other major factor is of course, the loss of international students due to the pandemic.

 

LOL...

actually

• "Some 42% of high school graduates are very interested in post-secondary education, but mental barriers appear to be holding them back. While the top reason more Americans weren't pursuing a college degree was logistics (not having enough time, not having transportation), the second most common reason was a lack of self confidence."

Self-Doubt Is a Top Reason More Americans Don't Go to College (businessinsider.com)

 

That came from Democratic partisan shill, Golem, so what more could you expect? I have a feeling, however, that you don't recognize comparable arguments, coming from a poster whose thoughts are patently Republican propaganda; to wit:

Man, you really covered a lot of bases, there, Steve:

1) Anti-WHITE discrimination;

2) Anti-CONSERVATIVE censorship, & antipathy/persecution;

3 & 4) Bugaboos over GENDER studies-- i.e., Feminism-- and AFRICAN studies, as if these were the only choices of subject majors available, or were fields, into which undergrads were forced. In truth, your opinion represents only a reactionary striking out at women & minorities, from a white male, uncomfortable with the loss of status and privilege, long accorded his gender-racial demographic.

5) Without forgetting the traditional authoritarian assault on colleges & the intelligentsia, portraying them as unpatriotic Socialists and Communists (with a bonus mention of the Chinese).

And you were even able to exit the paragraph with a mild swipe at the liberal, mainstream Media. You are in top form, today.

 

A lot of B$ politicizing of this issue in this thread. In reality, the reason is very simple:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/class-2020-college-can-wait-it-s-time-take-gap-ncna1202366

Lots of prospective college students are taking a gap year to wait out the covid pandemic.

 

Where do you get this baloney?

 

You mean that rich kid habit of doing nothing for a year just 'cause?

Nothing says 'white privilege' like a gap year!