Make all drugs legal; stop the myths~

It should not be a criminal offense to cultivate, manufacture, use, possess, or trade any substance.

 

What about threats?

 

Why?

 

Yes 100%. The war on drugs is a colossal failure and gives gangs/cartels a steady stream of income to rule poor neighborhoods with an iron fist. I was having this discussion with my nieces fiance, who is a police officer working in a gang unit. These gangs are dangerous and powerful, thanks to our drug laws. Drug laws are good for gangs and the prison-for-profit industry, but extremely bad for society.

 

I think if people want to kill themselves with drugs they should be allowed to. If they commit crimes related to drugs they can be prosecuted for those crimes like theft extortion and so forth.

There are too many money interests involved in this. One of the biggest being the private prison management. They get paid by how many inmates they look after. Those contracts for those private companies are huge money. Also the War on drugs. This is big business probably just as big business as the drug trade itself.

I don't think any of these people care about drugs I don't have any trouble with prosecuting people who are trafficking drugs internationally illegally.

But we let people use alcohol that drug is really detrimental to life. We let people use oxycontin as long as it's prescribed by a doctor.

I agree with you maybe in my lifetime I'll see marijuana become decriminalized to a large degree but I don't think any of this other stuff will be.

I was in elementary school at the time the dear program had just started and it was not effective for me not that I did illegal drugs the people that convinced me not to but the people that used to drugs.

 

What does that have to do with drug manufacturing?

What's the difference?

It doesn't have NEARLY the same death impact. People who die from alcohol abuse are not people in their 20's and 30's, unlike with drug overdosing.

That's because it has a common medical application - that being pain relief.

 

Would they not continue dealing in drugs if they were legal?

 

Why?

 

when did I say it had anything to do with drug manufacturing?

what's the difference of what?

Okay ... That's whatever you're talking about for you.

Yes I understand heroin relieves pain. That doesn't mean people don't abuse it.

 

I thought that you were saying drugs should be legal.

What's the difference between trafficking drugs internationally and trafficking drugs domestically?

Heroin does not have a COMMON medical application.

 

I wasn't saying anything of the sort but I still don't know even if you misunderstood what I said what manufacturing has to do with anything.

one is between multiple countries and the other is within the country.

Calling the substance oxycontin ental or heroin really doesn't make any difference other than a political one.

 

Well if you were in fact saying that drugs should be totally legal, that would include manufacturing. So when you mentioned that people should be free to kill themselves with drugs, that was only an argument for why drug POSSESSION should be legal. So should drugs be legal or not?

But only trafficking drugs internationally should be illegal?

Why, are they exactly the same other than the name?

 

What I was in fact saying was exactly what I typed.

Read what I originally said.

I charge by the hour for education on pharmaceuticals.

 

So should drugs be legal or not?

"I don't have any trouble with prosecuting people who are trafficking drugs internationally illegally."

Obviously oxycontin and heroin are different!

 

If this is coming from an anarchist standpoint, then the credulity of the arguments is definitely in question.

Maybe if they were regulated in a manner similar to alcohol.

 

No comment.

Then why are you talking to me about it?

 

Because there is no violence whatsoever in doing so. The only violence involved is the enforcement of our current scheduling, and the organised crime that creates.

 

Scheduling?

 

Then why the hell are you even participating in this thread?

 

Heroin was once manufactured by Bayer and marketed by Sears and Roebuck catalog. Laudanum a concoction made of alcohol, morphine and cocaine was available over the counter at any drug store. amphetamines (speed) was readily available for decades before these idiotic drug laws were passed then made more draconian as years passed.

Most crime associated with drugs is a direct result of these idiotic laws. Heroin went from a cheaply made substance that could be purchased for $1.98 for an ampule that contained enough for 20 doses and a couple clean needles. Now the street value of pure heroin is about $5000 an ounce.(3 times the price of gold). A product that can be grown processed and processed for about $10 a pound is now sold on the international black market for $25,000 a pound. Those who make the bulk of this profit are the same people who foment and start wars and profit from them. During the 10 year Vietnam debacle the heroin was produced mainly in the golden triangle in Southeast Asia and much of it was transported in military aircraft, distributed by high level corporate leaders. Lately, the bulk of the US heroin is produced in Afghanistan. (See a pattern there)

Cocaine was once a main ingredient in Coca Cola. It costs about $15 a kilo to grow and process, has an infinite shelf life and could be sold for $50 a kilo at a great profit. Now it sells for $35,000 a kilo on the streets of America. The whole drug war is a scheme and a huge scam on the American people. It guarantees huge levels of corruption, crime and death. If pure heroin and cocaine were available for $25 a pound here, the drug gangs would be out of business.

The DEA, and other local, state and federal police agencies could focus on real crime like robbery, murder, burglary and assault rather than sneaking around tapping phones, digging through trash and looking up peoples asses hoping to find a sandwich bag with a little dope in it. Also, once the huge profits were taken away from the drug trade, violent crime would be reduced exponentially.

That is not even counting the war on Canibus, LSD and certain kinds of mushrooms which is and has been a real travesty of justice. The billions spent every day on drug cops, judges, lawyers on both sides, prisons and other court and incarceration are a big waste of time money along with being a huge intrusion into our personal business. The sooner we wake up as a nation and abolish these rackets the better.

 

Drug scheduling. Schedule I, II, III, etc.

 

Threats of violence are essentially violence.

 

So anything which is not violence should be legal?

 

What about possession of obscene material?

 

It's never to talk to you.