As We Enter Our Own 1776 Moment, Christian Leaders Must Make a Stand

Just don't imply you know what I believe and state it wrongly as when you said....
"Were it not for this supernatural being you believe will punish you if you do not live a moral and ethical life would not live such a life?"

 

You don't believe in the hell you religious faith believes in and that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior you will go there? That seems to be a fundamental principle of the Christian faith.

 

Perhaps I don't believe in the way some fundamentalists' promote it. I do not promote hell. Hell is merely separation from God. You want that, you have it. Some have it right here on earth! By contrast to heaven and eternity with God, that separation is all that is described in scripture. Heaven is too much to look forward to and my relationship with Jesus preoccupies any "hellish thoughts". I have known Christians that weep for the lost. I don't. It's not on me. I understand the sovereignty God has awarded every individual out of his desire for relationship with Him. I will always be ready to give an answer when called, but for me, that is as far as it goes. Maybe that is not how you were brought up to believe. I studied scripture before I embraced a Body of Believers. You sound like you were sold a story of "salvation by works".

 

That is a pretty nutty statement to make. You do realize that in France, Italy and other countries Catholicism is the National Religion and they actually have little tolerances for those of other persuasions because they believe they alone are the Christian Church. You do realize America has always had several denominations and in the Revolution they worked together on faith quite well! Catholicism is more than tolerated here we've had one Catholic and one pretend Catholic Presidents.

 

Your referral to "Christian Oppression" is a good place to start. Show me anything in Christianity (Biblical Christianity) that is oppressing. (or suppressing for that matter)

 

I should like for you to look at the history of Christians and find they are not as forgiving or docile, or generous as Christ. There are many moments in time that represent Christians repressing other humans. Look to the natives of the US.

 

How 'bout if secularists stop pushing their brand of faith on everyone else? No one lives in a void. Only elitists that think their beliefs cannot be contested.

 

Here we go. Some people say Hitler, Madonna, David Koresh, Jim Jones and others are "Christian". The mere name Christian was given to the followers by the Greeks which means "little Christs" or followers of Christ. Christ represents to us true Love, both the hard side and the soft side. If you only want to proclaim the "soft side" then you are in error. He is both the "Lamb of God" and the "Lion of Judah"!

 

That's not happening. We have a secular gov so that no one religion is endorsed by the gov. This benefits everyone as no special group gets anything not available to anyone else. Not believing in any gods requires zero belief in that which cannot be supported by evidence.

 

More total crap and bullshit from the diarrhea mind of jefferson????????

 

Yet some believe themselves to be a god under a brand of secularism.....that is what is really scary! This is why we see a rise in "wokism" and "cancel culture". Those two are "special groups". How 'bout BLM? What about the rise in what we'll call "American Marxism"? These are all "special groups" under the guise of secularism. You want to imply I should keep my ideas to myself because they are faith based? You would have me at the mercy of these "secular special groups?" Not happening Bud!!

 

Well, anyone can believe any goofy **** they want. Not believing in any gods has nothing to do with wokism stupidity, or any other silly group. It's simply not believing in any imaginary friends until they're proven real. BLM is nothing more than a group of ***** who don't think the laws don't apply to them. You can shout about any gods you like, doesn't matter to me. Go nuts.

 

So, you don't deny those groups I mentioned are "special groups" and godless as well I might add. You give them total immunity I see. You give them "special power" because they are "secular". You....Buri are not an imaginary friend. In fact you may be a "real god" in your own eyes. There are many like you. Don't think for a minute I will ever submit to your authority! Those of us that garner our rights from a higher power just won't stand for rights being dispensed by the Godless!
There.....I went nuts!

 

I have no idea if they have imaginary friends or not, and I don't care. I think blm and antifa and many of those people are opportunistic clowns with an agenda that is comedic at best. If they're a "special group" they aren't special to me, a sentiment I've espoused on a regular basis.

I'm 100% certain I'm not a god. Our gov is secular and they have outlined many of our "rights", if you don't want to play by them that's your call. Knock yourself out.

 

Our forefathers many of whom or their immediate ancestors hd fled religious persecution in Europe DELIBERATELY avoided the establishment of ANY religion as part of the Declaration of Independance or of our Constitution. There is no state sponsored religion in aMERICa.

 

Lol...nonsense indeed. Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
Christian sectarian violence has existed since the dawn of Christianity, with each side always claiming "the truth" while massacring the other side.
And the commingling of church dogma and state power has always led to brutal repression and violence against anyone who didn't buy into their truth.
It's beyond arrogant to think anyone has the inside track on truth.

 

That is 100% correct. Don't ever confuse that with "people of faith" not having a voice!

 

Your problem is, you can't get your eyes off human nature. You love it, you roll in it. You have no idea what Christ has called us to be or do.

 

Your problem is you think your superstition is truer than all the other superstitions it shares the planet with.

 

I know it is truer than the superstition

I know it is truer than the superstition you follow.....a legend in your own mind.

Isn't it a fact that a thinking person follows the path he believes to be truest? In your case the path between and contained by your own two ears?

 

No, most people follow the easiest path and the one they were taught when they were young. It gets worse when you realize the only reason they are on that path is because of fear of what may happen if they DON'T follow that path.

Fear-based reasoning is not intellectually sound.

 

Hmmmm.

 

Sadly, Jefferson didn't live long enough to realize that statism is, itself, a religion and all political authority exists entirely based on the quasi-religious faith of those who believe in it.

 

Sadly, too many Americans today don't get that.

 

How many people did Jesus kill to occupy their land?