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Maybe next the Left will be proposing chastity devices for little girls?
That would be fitting with the logic we've seen so far in this thread.

 

Or just launch a campaign using media, entertainment and politics to normalize human trafficking. Nothing would surprise me. Hell, CNN seems to have a disproportionate number of pedophile employees. They need to spearhead the campaign before they lose any more employees. LOL

It’s obvious few care about these kids and few understand what societal factors lead to this rot. I’m flabbergasted at the lack of understanding of why and how these girls end up in these circumstances.

 

Boys end up in similar circumstances, as well. In my experience, it's not a lack of understanding. It's more a lack of courage. What I mean is, unless a person is able to connect with themselves on an honest level, it's impossible to connect with others because they are doing anything and everything they can to deny their own inner pain. The human brain is not designed for long-term, unrelenting stress. We're not hard-wired that way so, for some people, it's just easier to pretend whatever fairy tale gets them through life and ignore anything that doesn't sparkle and have unicorns.

Here's a recent example from my life. I posted a bit about it last week or the one before. I have a friend who is addicted to sex and attention from men and will do anything to get it. She has worsened this past year leaving me to struggle with my own convictions. On one hand, I want to respect her privacy because she has confided in me but I am also afraid she may not live to whatever age she is supposed to die because she's making very reckless decisions constantly.

About a month ago, I repeated an offer that I would go with her and stay by her side if she wanted to seek professional counseling. She declined again (I've tried approx. 15-20 times). She doesn't know this because she doesn't self-reflect at all, but the reason she doesn't want to go to counseling is that she's afraid. To her, having sex with multiple men a week or even in a day represent *less* pain than going to counseling to work on healing whatever inside her that makes her feel her only *value* to a man is sex. She is constantly conflicted because she wants to be in a steady relationship but she's advertising something counterproductive to that goal and then complains that she is being treated like a sex object. She doesn't have enough insight to connect those dots.

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Another example. This was a case I had as a child abuse advocate.

A mother was in court because her boyfriend molested her 6 year old daughter. The girl told her grandmother and her grandmother called the police. After the first court appearance, I was talking to her about the next steps and details about the next hearing. She began to cry and I let her do that and motioned for us to go sit down for a bit. When she was able to get the words out, she looked at me and said

"I can't do this. I don't know how to do this. This is the most horrible thing that has ever happened to me. I can't cope with it!!!!"

I gave her the space to cry or add more if she wanted to. She didn't. She just kept repeating those statements. Once she collected herself, I told her that I understood how difficult something like what was happening could be. I reassured her that I would give her as much support as I could as she walked that arduous journey. And, then, I turned to her and I said "You know how much this hurts? How you can't make your brain find the right words to describe your inner pain? The inability to eat or even taste food, fretful sleep, horrible images rushing through your brain constantly? Yes, I understand. And, I'm going to ask you to do something for me. I promise you that I will be by your side throughout this court case and I would like for you to make me a promise. Can you do that for me?

She told me she would do anything I asked.

I said, "All that stuff that is happening for you internally, making it hard to even breathe. You're (whatever age she was at the time) and it's hell. So, the promise I'm asking you to make for me...every time you feel that your pain is going to eat you alive...remember your daughter is going through the same thing and she's not even old enough to know the words to express HER pain."

Until that moment, she had never considered what it was doing to her child - the one that was actually sexually assaulted. But, I kept my promise and she kept hers.

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Using that overlay, we are all witnesses to former President Trump's very public nervous breakdown. The reason he is lying is to con his supporters out of money, but the actual *issue* is he has incredibly low self-esteem (and that's common among bullies of all types). The pain, we all witness him experiencing, however difficult is still LESS painful than admitting that he was fired for dropping the ball on COVID. There was no big plot or scams or cheating. He started dropping seeds to mess with his supporters' mind before Summer even got here in 2020.

It's very clear if one understands how the brain works and human psychology. Using the concept I explained above, this is what we see.

1. He appointed DeJoy to cut back overtime and remove mail boxes (to make it harder to vote in some counties).
2. He wanted everyone to know he was POTUS when the Stimulus checks were sent (delayed because he wanted his signature on them).
3. He sparred with the media constantly and never stepped back to let the experts we employ guide us through the pandemic.
4. He negotiated with terrorists, left $billions in equipment for them and timed it to happen under Biden's watch.
5. He lead his supporters astray every step of the way because, he does not have the courage to own his mistake.
6. And he compounded that mistake by getting several hundred of his loyal supporters arrested (and 5 officers died, 100s injured).

Add all of thus up plus the other stuff I didn't include. Can you conceptualize just how deep his inner pain has to be for any or all of that to represent "LESS" pain for him? He has to have some deep-seated demons in order for the death of 5 officers, 100s injured, 100s of loyal supporters being sent to prison and the rest to be the lesser of two evils!

No, 557, real life without the happy endings isn't or everybody. And, some of us can never unknow what we've seen so we try to stand in the gap and walk with those that need us.

I can only hope that one day we, as a unit, can stand behind our children and protect them. We can do better. I holding onto hope that we will.

 

Put in 2 of them, one well hidden, the other meant to be easily removed, (but not obviously so) Nothing is perfect and a tracker would help if the child had simply become lost.

 

AU, did you think that through? If a kidnapper has a knife or gun on a kid, Mr. or Mrs. Predator can find out the location of the chip(S) - no matter how many there are.

You seriously think it's a good idea to Robocop our kids? Seriously? Honest Engine and all that?

 

It is a legal principle that a child cannot consent to anything and their legal guardian is assumed to always be acting in their considered best interest

 

Further, what about kids that run away from home? They are going to cut their own chip out and probably hit an artery and bleed to death or get it infected living in cardboard boxes.

Or, how about we implant body cams so Big Brother can keep tabs on every flutter of an eyelid 24/7? We THOUGHT FaceBook reunions were at fault for all the divorces. Just wait until they chip us all ala The Truman Show.

 

Stop trolling please.

 

In many European countries now, they're sending male migrants through education classes to learn how to respect and not sexually violate women.
(They're hoping education can trump culture)

Sorry, he didn't really drop the ball on Covid. He immediately closed travel from China, even though the news at the time was saying that was racist. He went ahead with development of the vaccines at "warp speed", so no one could accuse him of not doing everything possible to get that rolled out. Expressing personal skepticism is not the same as dropping the ball when it came to policy. But it seems so often with Progressives these days that words, opinions and feelings seem more important than actual policies.

 

1. I'm not irrational.
2. I'm not against technology.
3. I don't care if kids get chipped or not because I don't think it will help the way you think it will help.
4. Rethink your idea and resubmit. The current one is full of holes.

P.S. Nobody drinks milk from a carton any more. Where do you live? 1954?

 

Seriously? I'm trolling? Have you ever been a cop? Do you have any idea what could happen to a kid if a predator wants to chain them in a basement while they bleed out from chip removal? Unless you think a bunch of licensed doctors are running around kidnapping kids as sex slaves or kidnappers/pedophiles sterilize stuff...

Maybe, instead of spending your free time accusing me of trolling, you can go volunteer at a suicide help line or at Missing and Exploited Children and actually help broken children. A little perspective might help.

 

No, that's not how it works.
You are confused.

I know some progressives on this forum tried using this same argument in the abortion debate.

 

I accuse you of trolling and you double down on it. Stop being silly and come up with a real objection.

 

Please tell me how I am mistaken.

 

The only way we can do this is by putting ankle bracelets on all our kids. Are you REALLY for that?

Are you aware that implanting a chip only identifies a body once it is found? What you're looking for is a GPS system, we can't do that with a chip - the battery needed to power it alone prevents that.

You're calling people Luddites but you appear to be unaware of the limits of current technology.

 

Some very good points. It is often a choice of whether to be personally responsible or not. There are some in this thread though that can’t even connect the dots of what constitutes responsible behavior and how irresponsible behaviors have negative consequences for children. That’s what scares me. If people don’t even know the difference between positive and negative behaviors, how can they choose the positive?

Interesting story of the mother who didn’t think about how her own child was feeling! That’s hard for me to process. I’m not a parent, but am pretty empathetic to feelings of innocents. I suppose the mother probably had her own emotional baggage, maybe from her own childhood that turned her feelings all back into herself.

Oh, yes, boys too. Just because the numbers are much lower doesn’t mean they aren’t suffering as well. Thanks for reminding us of that.

 

A chip (typically RFID) with identity information would also be a liability for the family of the chipped kid. I have the ability to read RFID, we use it some in the livestock industry. A trafficker could find the chip, get whatever information on the family was on the chip, and remove the chip. Then the family could be targeted by the traffickers as well if it benefited them to do so. You could just have a number on the chip that referenced back to a third party, like a physician or local/state/federal government entity to avoid potential identification of family by traffickers. But that’s a whole can of worms in itself from a privacy/security perspective.

 

So "protecting the children" will be the excuse to implant us all with radio frequency tracking chips.

Wish I could say I was surprised.

Wonder what our founding fathers would say. I bet they could not even imagine a situation getting to the point that people would think this was needed.

Hmm, but I'm sure a lot of slave owners would have thought this was a good idea, if the technology had existed back at the time.

 

We are all tracked on our mobile phones, our movements are all recorded and stored for 6 months. Plus many parents install live tracking apps on their childrens phones as a condition in paying for that phone

 

They stopped putting children on milk cartons in th 1990s. I just used it as an example

Maybe, but I think it's you who are unaware of how far technology has come in this area.

 

I want one of them myself

 

So it's better that the kid stays with the kidnapper than that they get the wrong idea of what being a good parent entails? A child kidnapped at 7 or so thinks the kidnapper IS their parent after a year or so.

I think NOBODY should have guns, not even government unless they are absolutely necessary as they seldom really are.

 

This isn't a legal question it's a question of ethics. According to you the gov should give you money and healthcare and you can be monitored by means of electronic surveillance within your own person. Is this because you feel you lack the ability to make good decisions on your own and need a nanny state to take care of you, or do you just not care enough to proper parental care?

None of what you're suggesting is ethical or intelligent.

 

We get it, you'd rather someone else do for you what you cannot do for yourself. And that's really sad.

 

Well, you can opt out of a lot of tracking. You also do not have to carry a phone everywhere. There is a big difference between a phone you can walk away from and a tracking chip installed by a careless parent.