Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

That's just a lot of crap your spreading. Shooting a round at random into a crowd of unarmed civilians is murder. This cop should be in prison i don't care what race he is!

 

HE. DIDN'T. SHOOT. AT. RANDOM. INTO. A. CROWD. WHY. CAN'T. YOU. GUYS. WATCH. THE. ****ING. VIDEOS?

 

Here she was just before she was shot. Crawling through a window that @drluggit says was perfectly intact. Which . . . I mean, screw being armed, guys. I guess she was just a mother ****ing wizard! The cop was off to the left, shooting almost parallel to the door, and shooting only at her, not at the crowd, and not through the door.

 

I had a 5'-something female Grade 12 marshall arts student who could have killed most 6’+ male cops in heartbeat. She looked like Bambi.

 

Show me the videos from Byrd's side of the doors.

 

They don't actually. Meaning that police everywhere are not allowed to use deadly force this way. And it would have been appropriate to at the very least engage a grand jury to decide an appropriate outcome. That wasn't even attempted. The video documents what happened. He'd be in jail now if this was white male cop unarmed black woman and you know it. The shooting wasn't justified, and never will be. And like the brutes in the NG at Kent State, this is one of those infamous events that will be remembered.

 

So police should shoot first and ask questions later?

 

I can see clearly in the videos already made public. Probably more clearly than anything you are pretending to care about wanting more footage of. The existing video shows both what Babbitt was doing and what Byrd was doing. If you had a case to make, you already have all of the video you need. Try watching them. It's clear at this point that non of the RWs around here have even watched a few seconds of the videos, so it is pretty hilarious to see them pretend that the care about wanting to see more.

 

In this case? Probably.

 

Really? My son (5'10" - 170lbs -19 y/o) is a star BJJ competitor and Wrestler, he's studied Muay Thai for over 5 years too. Given a distance of over 6' and arming the other person, he has no chance versus a gun. You're Female student would do even worse than my son. Ashli was far less capable than your student or my son, so what are you babbling about? Just say that you don't care because of your ideology if you want to be an honest person.

 

The video? You've repeatedly gotten just about every detail about the publicly available videos wrong, so don't go appealing to the videos. You were wrong about the window being intact. You were wrong about Byrd shooting randomly through the door. You were wrong about the presence of other police, who were already walking downstairs at this time. Yes, police are allowed to use this kind of force in this kind of situation everywhere in the country.

 

If it applies to this case it applies to every case.

 

Do you suppose that if police shot you randomly, even in TX that your family doesn't then have a case against the police because, as you've advocated, they're allowed to?

 

The imminent threat was the 25/30 insurrectionists behind her ready to follow her through the breach whom had been yelling bloody murder, destroying two solid doors, breaking glass and ready to make good on their threats. IF, Lt. Byrd had allowed the mob through the breach they would have quickly overwhelmed him, possibly killed him, and had nothing between them and Congress to keep them from carrying out their threats of mayhem. Trespassing, coming through a window that was the last bastion of protection for members of Congress is definitely a immediate threat. IF, she'd been alone I'm sure Lt. Byrd would have used different measures.

"I" think anybody, any mob that is an imminent threat to OUR public servants, with only one officer between them, should be shot before they can carry out threats of murder.

 

What I suppose is that you haven't actually read the post that you quoted. Care to try again? Maybe it won't help. I keep trying to get you to watch the video and you still keep getting even the most basic facts wrong. She wasn't shot "randomly," and please don't make up **** about me saying that they are allowed to shoot people randomly. Try sticking to the facts instead of desperately making up bull **** like that. It's only January and I've already had my fill of lame, lazy, dishonest strawman arguments.

 

Excuse me ...

She was killed by a bullet that was intentionally fired at her. Whether or not that shooting was justified is a “stand alone” question. In answering that question, politics don’t matter.

 

Please provide me with a link of the video on Byrd's side of the doors that you are viewing.

 

You don't know that he didn't, all you have is the Federalists article that says "he wasn't formally" interrogated. What they never say is he was uncooperative, or that he tried to hide anything. Color of Law? Using the term, Color of law shows your bias toward Lt. Byrd. He acted within the law and department procedures and consequently was exonerated of ANY wrong doing by three separate investigations.

 

See previous post. And try watching existing video. I realize you will refuse to do so, which is why I know you don't actually care about any additional video. You guys only pretend to care about wanting new video to hide from the fact that you aren't willing to watch even a few seconds of the existing video.

But, hey, thanks for the white flag.

 

Please provide a link to any video that shows the Capitol security video from Byrd's side of the doors... The security video in the hall with Byrd... no door in between him and the camera... where we can see his actions and commands before, during , and after...with the crowd on the outside of the doors..

 

You can clearly see him and his shot in existing video. The door doesn't prevent that. It is clear that you and your allies have steadfastly refused to watch existing videos. Maybe request more after you watch the ones that already exist. Ta ta.

 

Yea..... the video you keep referring to shows him plainly murdering her... I was hoping in your denial from having a link to the Capitol video security from his side that I may have seen a different outcome... as I see it now it was a premeditated murder in the first degree, a murder that was planned in advance and was carried out willfully......so I ask again that you keep side stepping the more than obvious request....

Please provide a link to any video that shows the Capitol security video from Byrd's side of the doors... The security video in the hall with Byrd... no door in between him and the camera... where we can see his actions and commands before, during , and after...with the crowd on the outside of the doors..

 

Try watching the actual video. It is clear that you and your friends have not done so. You keep getting even the most basic details wrong. You keep claiming that the video that you haven't watched proves your case, then you demand more videos that you supposedly think will prove your case.

When you guys are willing to discuss the facts, we can have a real discussion. But if you insist on running away, so be it.

 

I've see a quick clip from "Lt. Byrd's side" ( if I ever find it againyou can be sure I will book mark it), Lt. Byrd is not shown, all you see is Ms. Babbitt falling back through the window she was attempting to breach. It doesn't really show anything enlightening beyond what you see from the other side.

I haven't seen anything that supports you view, what I've seen is a violent situation where a solitary officer is forced to draw a line in the sand, where which he determined a point he would not allow the protestors to pass, in protection of Congress. Ashli Babbitt crossed that line.

 

Can't say. There are circumstances where it would make sense.