Careful! They are coming for your freedom and next your life!

No the gaurds did not "also have guns" they were the only ones there who had guns.

Now I know what the technical definition of armed is but generally when you say someone is armed you mean they are carrying a gun.

And please please, fix the quote box while you're edit time is still there. Thank you

 

I used the word WEAPON.
One can be "armed" with a crossbow or a pocket of stones.
YOU translated it into guns.

Now perhaps you might like to support your assertion that no protester had guns. All hundreds of them.
As you like to say, I'll wait.

 

Just as soon as you can prove your claim that any of the protesters killed anyone that day, I'll get right on that.

Had any of the protesters had been armed that day it would have been breathlessly featured on the news and we both know it.


Ask about 95% of the people on this forum what they think of when they hear the word armed and I'm sure you will hear a gun.

I don't generally think of some guy with a stick as being armed.

 

Lol...all that bullshit and twaddle can't change the facts about Jan 6 and the two months that trump spent trying to seditiously overturn the election and incite his peeps to insurrection after November 4.
That is now part of the historical record around the world. I can see why you would want to distract.
And as new revelations come out about the complicity of the seditious trump gang, yet more shame will be attached to trump's name in history. Hopefully, legal consequences will also follow, but we know how easily the rich can escape justice in the world.
But it must still gall you that trump is such an obvious loser and deplorable human being.
Saving face is all his base has left, but even many of them can't stomach the malignant narcissist any more.
I look forward to the trump-desantis death match coming up.

 

How about the soul?

Will "they" take that too?

 

It's not what people do once the chips are down, it's what they do every day which matters. You won't support each other in an emergency, if the close relationships and obligations have been abandoned. Or, that one person who never meets their obligations in participation or behaviour, will miss out on the same level of support.

You can't "become" mutually INTERdependent in your moment of need. You have to build a framework for support long before that happens.

 

they are also coming for our precious bodily fluids!!!!

 

Dude, you just watched Dr Strangelove didn't ya?

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!



precious bodily fluids!!!!!! arggghghggh!!!

 

1) You yourself admit that it is "it's true that the Progressive Left are more supporting of non-nuclear families". Since they are also responsible for the acquired mistrust of private property (and community - because community means conformity, and Progs hate that) - it's pretty freaking obvious that it's on them.

2) Their long term goal of expanding the permanent underclass. Which they are doing a fine job of ... as evidenced by that which is right in front of your eyes.

3) I'm also a landlord, but I'll wager neither of us is corporate. If you're not sure what corporate property investment is, you may want to look into the mass purchasing of residential properties by both mega rich individuals, and corporations. They are buying up homes at twice the pace of individuals. All towards that same end of a life-renting consumer underclass. Each step they can take towards removing another pillar of common man indepence, they'll take. The short term cost is immaterial. The immense gains they'll see when three quarters of us are compelled to purchase our very existence, is worth it.

4) Private property is essential to common man independence. It's AS important as family and community. The three go together to give working and middle class people self-reliance and power.

5) "Responding"? The only way they could be 'responding' is if they're stupider than a box of rocks .. and literally don't understand the connection between reactivity and consequence. I sure hope you haven't convinced yourself that the fallout is inadvertent .. that they didn't mean for it happen, because that would be an admission of their complete stupidity. That probably is what they want you to think though, so if you've chosen that position (or worse, don't even see the damage done, because you're alright, Jack) you've been played for a fool.

6) Where's the evidence it's about consumerism? When working (and even poverty) class people paid off their own homes, and shared resources with family/community up until fairly recently, they were not obliged to purchase every facet of their survival, every day of their lives, til they day they died. They could choose not to consume many things. When you foster life-renting and family dissolution, you remove that power to choose. You create people utterly dependent upon the market.

7) The elites are the one percent, my friend. The biggest power and money, taking their coin from the working and middle classes who can't stop buying stuff (because increasingly, they have no choice). These people don't leave anything to chance .. they'll play politics wherever and however they have to to facilitate that end.

8 ) You don't fix poverty by making people dependent. You don't fix poverty by removing the power from the people. Any Govt which sells that approach is invested in disempowerment.

 

Oh, bravo, Pixie! What a brilliant and adroit use Gaunt's speech in "Richard II" to make an inspired observation about Britain! I salute you. There isn't one of us in five thousand in present-day America who would have had the perspicacity to bring that into this thread's context.

Indeed, Great Britain, like America fifty years later, has quite literally 'thrown it all away'... and for what?

 

The whole Covid experience across Europe has proven you wrong.
The UK lost thousands of nurses and other professionals who returned to their home and families when Covid hit.
Framework of support does nt have to mean living in the same street. Certainly not today. People with very close relationships live scattered all over the world and it has NOTHING to do with American politics.

 

Once again you are contradicting yourself.
The expanding class of property owners who charge others rent etc are the CAPITALISTS who do it to make money. They are THE RIGHT who vote for lower taxes and less state interference. THE RIGHT WING.
It isn't the LEFT who are making a profit off the inability of the less wealthy to buy a home. It is the corporate capitalists in hand with right leaning politicians who make their beds more comfortable.
You still have your left and right mixed up.

 

Please don't change the subject.
Which is whether the protestors carried weapons, not whether they killed anyone.

I am quite sure the shaman with the spear is considered as carrying a weapon.

and I don't care who translates weapons into guns. I don't do language by votes.
A big stick is a weapon.

 

oh please you are so claim that the protesters killed people, did you actually forget that you made that claim or did you just think after this much of a back and forth that everyone else would forget?

Ironically enough if you remember it was that post where you said let's stick to the truth.

That's ironic don't you think? Because you know that's not what you were doing in that post.... Or this one

 

sigh

 

Tell me about it, you know good and well what you claim too late to change the story now.

Or you could surprise us and just admit you were mistaken.

That's always an option too instead of keep digging deeper

 

I refuse to repeat myself after 4 pages of other discussion and frankly no one cares.
Now go away and stop pestering me.

and while you are at it, look up the definition of a weapon.

 

Indeed. So is a fire extinguisher or a door frame.

 

You mean the fire extinguisher that no one ever got beat with? You know even the propaganda outlets that pushed it have retracted that right?

 

Hey, it's fine if you want to make false claims and run away. Have a great day!

You keep responding, feel free to stop at any time.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

There were around nine people who died directly after the attack.
There were heart attacks and suicides.
Please read the fullfact analysis.
Then find a definition of weapon.
and then leave me alone.

 

Who and how were these people killed by the intruders? Be specific.

 

You haven't read the Fullfact article have you?
I don't see why I have to rewrite what is already there for you to read.

 

Now you h ave had 20 minutes to read the article, perhaps you could tell me how these half a dozen or so people were NOT killed by the riot?

My bet is that they were already weak and the riot put too much stress on them...if there had not been that stress they would possibly still be alive. The riot killed them. The idea of a huge mass of rioters attacking the capitol building, forcing entry, invading private offices and generally running around with weapons would cause tress in anyone human. ONe gurd w


Now you prove the opposite.