14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

Murder is already against the law and morally condemned. That didn't help.

 

Sounds about like Saudi Arabia. Nothing quite like state-sanctioned violence to show that violence is wrong. But while your position sounds intuitive, pretty sure studies haven't demonstrated that execution is a better deterrent than significant imprisonment. The main circumstance in which the severity of punishment matters is when the punishment is very minor (like a small fine vs imprisonment). Otherwise, it's either an emotional crime immune to deterrence, or it's primarily about perceived likelihood of getting caught. Not to mention the fact that such widespread execution would bankrupt us or cause us to execute innocent people.

 

You cannot transport a gun and carry ammo at the same time eg a loaded gun cannot be transported

Which bit of "With the exception of a few thousand of the 120,000 soldiers........" did you not understand?

 

The world, and this country have become a twisted place. Society needs a fundamental change. Profits are seen as more valuable than people. We need to scrap GDP as the measure of success, and implement happiness of citizens as a measure of success. Love and compassion for our fellow man is what is needed. It is sorely lacking in this country, especially if it means lower profits.

 

I think that is the opposite of what is needed.

 

And also it would be beneficial for any criminal to kill any witnesses if George Bailey proposal was followed

 

You think a murderer gives a **** about that law?...lol

 

Semi-auto is just a deer rifle. That will never go away. There will be pretty firm limits on those very strict permit restrictions because of the constitutional protection of gun ownership.

 

Well, we disagree on one point. The problem with 2A today is that the courts interpret it exactly as the FF's intended.

 

You say you have the selfie picture, but then you proceed to not post said picture... interesting.

If you have anything to refute, I'm all ears...

Sure, according to multiple sources there was a state trooper on the scene who immediately exchanged gunfire, but was outgunned. The reports say the gunman hit multiple police officers before entering the school, but doesn't specify if the state trooper who was on the scene first was one of them.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-school-shooting-uvalde-robb-elementary-dps-details/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/us/texas-shooting-gun-details.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...biden-calls-action-gun-laws-19-chil-rcna30427


Keep in mind, these are multiple trained officers being outgunned by a single teenager. The police had to request help from a nearby border patrol station. The officer who took out the gunman was a part of a trained special forces unit, who was injured in the gunfire exchange. I know people have this fantasy about carrying a handgun and stopping someone who has an assault rifle and high capacity magazines, but that just isn't the reality of the situation. Multiple trained officers couldn't even accomplish that

 

Hug a thug!!!

 

What is so different that people can even think of doing these things?

 

Lol. We are talking about Swiss gun laws, not murderers!

 

He was not wearing body armor.

 

we wouldn’t be. The cops take 20-45 minutes to show up when you’re being a crime victim. The only ones left with guns would be bad guys and cops.
Why won’t you just take the guns from the bad guys who cause the problems?

 

He was according to this news report
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw258gX6GgXgvK4rAnhjBZ7f

 

They can buy ammo if they obtain a license, but carrying a loaded gun in public is a serious offence and practically no one has concealed carry permits. That would require you to be a licensed / professional security guard. Swiss people laugh when they hear NRA misrepresent Swiss gun laws to push their agenda. I suppose it falls in the category of "ignorant Americans"

 

Concealed carry permits are actually pretty common. And the weapons are loaded.

 

Yeah a murderer is going to obey those laws...lol

 

You think Switzerland doesn't have murderers?

" In 2016, there were 187 attempted and 45 completed homicides, for a homicide rate of 0.50 per 100,000 population, giving Switzerland one of the lowest homicide rates in the world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

 

I know. That’s what they want you to believe. Law enforcement officers in scene say no. I suspected as much because people with actual knowledge of such things realize plate carriers are not armor. Initial reports mentioned vest/plate carrier but not body armor. Journalists don’t know the difference and want you to believe he was wearing armor so twist the truth.

It is not wise to just believe what journalists tell you. They are ignorant and dishonest. Not a good combination.

The truth is coming out today….after people like you already believe the lie….

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/live-updates/texas-school-shooting/?id=84952985

 

Or, we could take a closer look at the factors leading to social decay, work to address those, rather than focusing on the tools used by a mentally sick populace

 

I got a better idea. Reformation of prisons. Forced hard labor. Have em dig ditches, break rocks and clear fields. They’ll work for 10-12 hours a day. When they get back to their cells there’s no talking to anyone other than their cellmate. No tvs no radio no internet no communication with the outside world whatsoever.

If they refuse to work they go to the hole which is four walls and a barren cot. They will be paid .50 cent per hour until their debt is paid back to society. If you commit a violent crime, that pay rate will decrease to 10 cents per hour.

Criminals become criminals because it’s easier than work. Make their ass work and they’ll be less likely to offend.

 

The law as I understand it is that the gun seller only has to wait 3 days for a background check. Sometimes the check is not completed in that time. So the bill in congress would increase the wait period to 10 days. That might have stopped the Charleston Church shooting had it been law at the time.

I would also support red flag laws that would allow courts to issue orders authorizing the temporarily confiscation (pending a closer investigation) of guns from individuals who appear to pose a threat to themselves or others. I would support putting a time limit on the confiscation (say 30 days) so gun owners don’t have to wait an eternity for some bureaucrat to complete the investigation.

 

So you’re answer is to make another law that he would have broken?