14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

False, sometimes the good guys win, sometimes the bad guys do. But a well armed good guy has a better chance than a good guy that isn’t armed at all. Your analysis is as surface level as it gets lol, and had already been disproven multiple times before as police and good citizens have been armed and stopped an abundance of threats.

 

how would they know that? If there's a gun in the house in a criminal decides not to burglarize not house that's the owner of that house using a gun to protect themselves.

no it isn't your metric is dishonest. I think you mean to say shooting someone in self-defense is less common than committing suicide.

Most defensive uses of a gun don't involve shooting anybody.

note to self don't commit suicide.
Problem solved.

 

I understand that you think it's the police's fault.

 

The only thing this is proof of is you cannot rely on the government to protect you.

Relying on the government to protect you is exactly why there was a school shooting the government failed.

 

Nope, but it’s their fault they didn’t engage sooner

 

Primarily it's the shooter's fault you want to blame the gun because it suits some sort of political bone you have to pick.

But the school and the government failed to protect kids so they are to blame. That would say far more than the gun

 

60 innocent Americans die every month in mass shootings.

Each year, 10x more people die in the US in mass shootings than in all the Western nations combined.

Gun proliferation is a total failure.

 

It is the government, with your approval, that allows the American madmen to be the best armed in the world.

 

Who would sell any adult 2 semi automatic guns??
Who on earth could need them? Hunting rabbits?
18 in the army is using weapons under surveillance. And no, 18 doesn't flip the switch to own8ng such things.
2A was written for a specific purpose relevant at the time. It isn't relevant today.
The dregs of it has become à licence to kill by any nutter. Its purpose has become more and more abused until infants are being murdered. What next? A breakin to à hospital room full of incubators?
The USA is the only civilised country that endorses a free path to mass murder. Ever wondered how other countries manage to contain this blodletting? And they have indeed been overrun by à foreign power. And have used weapons to resist. But they returned to à sane social framework where people can walk about safely and children can go to school and go home again happily.
There are some Gréât things about the USA. But this is one huge blot on your copybook and I have no idea why some think guns ensure your freedom. In fact the opposite is true. You are ensnared in à circle of blood in which children are murdered.
I cannot imagine why you allow that in your country. Why children are collatéral damage. Why any innocent person is collatéral damage. For what? An archaic irrelevant law.

 

Well I'm glad you noticed how stupid the question was. Really it's an indictment on your viewpoint.

Gun control is supposed to reduce that why isn't it in fact the suicide rate in Australia is increasing

Asking you stupid questions is mockery of your stupid position.

 

So if it was the revolver from 19 kids dead perfectly fine with you?

 

You are including suicides. Statistics fail. Regardless of your dishonesty on the subject at hand the reality is Pandora’s box has been opened and your argument about armed individuals being unable to stop other armed madman individuals is completely self defeating. It was a failed argument that had been disproven multiple times alrdy. Not even sure why you would attempt to make it at all lol.

 

No, I don't.

 

Did you enjoy the Columbine massacre because they didn't use an AR-15?

 

He's talking about specifically people who die in mass shootings which is a couple of hundred people.

They think this is an important point to make because someone who shoots three people no big deal someone who shoots four then that's a statistic

 

Yes, you do

 

The manner in which stats are collected and presented make them so manipulatable.

 

Right they allow a madman to have them but nobody else.

That's what gun laws do that's what you're doing in Canada you just been lucky

 

I certainly won't be taught math by someone who thinks Trump won the election.

 

I never said that, but once again you simply make arguments based on pure emotion and not on evidence as you’ll never quote me saying that.

 

For decades.

As in Australia, Europe, and so many other countries in the West.

 

Have you ever heard that saying there are lies there are damn lies and then there are statistics.

Anybody ever trying to convince you of anything using statistics automatically doubt that person their motivations are most likely devious and you can make statistics sound as though you've created a miracle drug or a magical car that has no emissions.

That also goes for you too don't use statistics liars use statistics.

 

Yes for decades

It isn't your laws.

I can easily get a gun in Canada legally that's not even considering illegally.

Parts of Europe and Australia might be a little harder cuz there's an ocean separating them from anywhere else.

 

You would have a stronger point if expense were the only question. The more important (to me) point is that a defensive strategy is a losing strategy.

 

Layers were in the plan but not executed. Again, the attacker only needs one good day.