14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

So let's talk about it.

To obtain any semi-automatic gun, there is a psychological test to pass.

You must prove with your medical file that you have no history of mental illness.

Someone with a history of depression, for example, could be turned down.

It goes without saying that those with a criminal record are excluded.

The gun must be kept in a secure safe at home at all times. A special permit is required to move it and it must be locked.

A holder who has psychological problems or is suicidal could have his or her firearms confiscated by the police with a denunciation from a family member or close friend.

There is a national gun registry to find out who owns what across Canada.

With these measures, there is a mass shooting every 5 years.

 

I see you disingenuously cut the part of my post where I said of course they don't if nobody goes in and confronts them.

That's the little part you want to keep ignoring isn't it?

You also wish to keep ignoring the part that it was brought to an end with a gun when somebody finally found the balls to go and confront him

 

Bullshit, that's just a Beto campaign talking point. I live here and we have kids in the system. Doors are locked, egress is controlled and who picks up your kids is monitored. Some districts have armed teachers with carry permits on campus. Uvalde is a small town and this violence is just not anticipated, people know each other and trust. Now we seem to be at a point we can't trust anymore. Damn shame.

 

so in Canada people can't be killed if they're shot with a rifle that has a manual bolt?



You must prove with your medical file that you have no history of mental illness.

Someone with a history of depression, for example, could be turned down.

It goes without saying that those with a criminal record are excluded.

The gun must be kept in a secure safe at home at all times. A special permit is required to move it and it must be locked.

A holder who has psychological problems or is suicidal could have his or her firearms confiscated by the police with a denunciation from a family member or close friend.

There is a national gun registry to find out who owns what across Canada.

With these measures, there is a mass shooting every 5 years.[/QUOTE]
These measures didn't do anything they are lip service.

You can do a mass murder with a pump-action shotgun or a bolt action rifle or a revolver.

I think you're taking credit away from your people to build up some stupid law.

 

So basically they make you have a gun that's completely useless for self-defense..... if You can even have one

 

If you consider that neutralizing a mass shooter with a gun after he has slaughtered 19 children is proof that guns protect citizens, you have a huge judgment problem.

 

You keep missing the point I'm sure it's on purpose though.....

When you sit outside for 40 minutes and don't confront the shooter the body count will obviously go up.

 

Because it WAS predicted. Even I made that prediction a long time ago after the El Paso massacre.

Look... let's make things easy. Bookmark this post. There WILL be another shooting in Texas because somebody goes into a store and buys a gun, or uses a gun loophole to get a hold of a gun.

And there will also be the same in other states because this is a nation wide epidemic.

So that means that we need to make sure that any person who buys a gun doesn't have "mental health" problems. People must be evaluated before allowing them to buy a gun.

 

Programmed to parrot what the MSNBCNN has taught them to say..

 

The vast majority of Canadians know that the chances of using a gun to protect themselves from a criminal are much less than killing themselves with it.

It's the same in the US.

A gun owner is 13x more likely to commit suicide with his gun than to prevent the commission of a crime.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/guns/

 

Why don't they keep these arms locked in a secure cabinet bolted to the wall until they're called into service?

When was the last time the civilian militia was called into service?

When they're not called into service, why are civilians walking around in public with loaded guns?

 

You will not be able to put part of the responsibility for this shooting on the backs of the police.

If that madman hadn't had access to guns, those 19 kids would be alive today.

 

I like campaign talking points that lead to saving lives. Abbot's tend to COST lives.

We can't. And yet gun advocates trust the life of your and my kids and grandkids to people who did not have to undergo a background check, had no mental evaluation, and can just walk into a store with a gun designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time and walk right out and kill them. And the governor of your state (as well as the governor of mine) are in the group that favor doing NOTHING to stop this from happening in the future.

And believe me: it WILL happen again.

 

Nope, it's 18 had less than 4 victims. The perpetrator is not a victim

 

Are suicides counted as a homicide on your list? And then break it down by race. Starts getting tricky.

 

They can pay for teachers and yes they need to pay for private security. It’s absolutely sensible and is the only truly effective way to protect people in a word where Pandora’s box has alrdy been opened. You can be wrong and disagree in an emotional manner, that’s fine. But I am objectively correct.

 

I suggest you read this in educate yourself on the specifics of this case but I doubt that you will. Here's a very handy link where they are questioning the police response.... So much so that bystanders considered rushing in because the police were standing there essentially twiddling their thumbs while Rome burned.

You don't have time to sit around and have a pow wow while there's an active shooter who's keeping on shooting.

Have you heard it said before that most people run from the sound of gunfire but cops run towards it?

Evidently not these cops.

Read this and educate yourself. So when you sit there and try to make the argument that guns were pointless and didn't stop him you were full of it

https://www.nbcnews.com/

 

All the proof you need that guns protect citizens that police and military carry them.

 

No, but if you want to talk about it, know that the suicide rate in Australia is 5.7.

It is 13.4 in the US.

 

He's Canadian and the Canadian government has its own propaganda Network.

So it's actually the government programming in that the government is good the government is your friend.

It's like China or the USSR.

The point at what you need to worry is when they start having a social credit score I'm imagining that's next couple of years

 

How is it possible that people commit suicide in Australia if they have more laws about owning guns?

 

No they're not useless you can even commit a mass murder with the guns that you can own in Canada.

 

A police officer was already on the scene when the shooter arrived at the school and they exchanged fire.

The policeman could not prevent him from entering.

Which proves, once again, that even a good guy with a gun can't do much to stop a crazed shooter from killing innocent people.

 

I'm sure if you make an effort, you're capable of asking an even stupider question.

 

You do understand they set there for 40 minutes.
.... 40 minutes.... While the shooting went on.... Long after sufficient backup was on the scene.


Do you understand what 40 minutes is?