14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Bastiats libertarians

    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    Irrelevant. You just compared 3 isolated Islands to North America basically.
     
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    No 2/3 of americans support gun control lol. At most 50 percent of democrats do. And maybe on the absolute high side 10 percent of republicans.
     
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    why, yes. Anyone with a brain blames the person and not some inanimate object that isn’t sentient. That’s patently dishonest to avoid blaming the culprit, congrats.
     
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    Im absolutely gonna vote republican and tell everyone i know to vote republican.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That's your right as a citizen Do you support murdering toddlers that much?
     
  8. Arkanis

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    False.

    No significant change in the last 50 years.

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    The US has one of the highest suicide rates in the West.

    It is 11/100,000 for all of Europe and Canada.

    In the US, it is 16.

    And most western countries have a lower rate than the US with significant gun restrictions .
     
  9. Bastiats libertarians

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    You can stand on the graves of dead children and finger wag at me all you want. But your still a piece of **** for doing it. Why dont you come down off their bodies. You look like an ******* for doing it.
     
  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You wanted it to be higher?
     
  12. Bastiats libertarians

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    No my point is their gun buyback is largely irrelevant. They went from 1.8 to .9 per 100k. Its not like they solved murder.
     
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    "We can typically determine suspicious criminality a mile away."

    If you are gifted with such paranormal perception, could you provide a valuable public service by identifying the homicidal crackpots who account for the frequent firearm massacres in the U.S. before they easily obtain their weapons under the current permissive gun laws?
     
  14. Arkanis

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    I don't give a damn about the FBI definition.

    A nation has a huge problem when dozens of kids can show up at school every year with guns and shoot up the place.
     
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    There has been 13 School Mass shootings in the US since 1966.
     
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    Because that's what profiling is.

    pro·fil·ing


    the recording and analysis of a person's psychological and behavioral characteristics, so as to assess or predict their capabilities in a certain sphere or to assist in identifying a particular subgroup of people.

    You know if you're confused about the meaning of a word you can just Google the definition.
     
  18. hawgsalot

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    Well in 2013 he introduced a bill to harden schools with federal dollars, it of course was filibustered by the dems and killed before it could be voted on. Today wishing he would have won that, it would've prevented this massacre.
     
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    l'm fine talking about evil, if that's what you mean. And I posted above somewhere that everyone jumps reflexively to "mental illness" instead of "evil" as the root cause of modern atrocities. The Nazis weren't just "mentally ill," nor the Khmer Rouge. They were evil.

    For 2000 years, at least, thoughtful elders in society have been grappling with evil as a concept. It's either an absence of good, or its own standalone, affirmative force, emanating from Satan, or something else. They've worked very hard on the problem. If we haven't figured out what it is, it's hard to fight it.
     
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    Ok bingo exactly what I was looking for, like I said the left is not willing to get rid of guns with criminals so the whole gun control for law abiding citizens is a nonstarter.
     
  21. Arkanis

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    This argument that guns are harmless because they are inanimate objects is one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum.

    Why can't I own an atomic bomb?
     
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    Hi, Bastiats.

    The post stated verifiable statistics.

    It should be noted that absent guns and bullets, those 45,000 deaths from gunshot, of whatever subcategory, would not have occurred.

    How many of those people would have dies by other means is a matter of conjecture.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n un-shot.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Why are you supporting their murders and then yelling at me because I oppose them? You appear to be a truly sick individual for doing that.

    Here we have it folks, these people think I'm "finger wagging" because I am trying to prevent children having to wipe themselves in the blood of their dead friends to keep a madman from murdering them too.

    Go to the polls in November. Protect your children. Protect yourself. Vote AGAINST people who seem to clearly think they should have the right to just kill anyone they want, anytime and for any reason.

    You would think you wouldn't have to tell people that but we just keep voting them in for some reason
     
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    Can’t tell. You didn’t supply a source for your stats. I don’t know how they break it down and sorry to say, I can’t trust YOU because you lie and spread information constantly here.

    Death by suicide ARE included in total gun deaths here, which skews the numbers and makes them appear to be worse than what they actually are when you consider that a suicide isn’t endangering anyone except that person. So when you account for suicides not being dangerous to the public and that the vast majority of gun deaths are also gang related and generally restricted to specific areas, the TRUE danger of guns is brought into a bit more perspective, don’t you think?

    If you told poor inner city kids that they have a high chance of drowning, most would look at you like you’re crazy because many probably have never seen a pool. Yet kids in the suburbs may be overly afraid of getting shot due to what they see on the news or what their parents tell them, which in reality is not reality at all.

    A kid in the suburbs probably has a much higher chance of drowning. And we all know this because we all have fences around our pools and hear the stories about unattended toddlers. But if you poll what’s more dangerous , a pool or a gun, take a guess which one parents are more afraid of? It should be the pool, because pools and beaches kill MORE KIDS THAN GUNS DO!!!

    It’s about context and just understanding the real world. Measuring and controlling fear.
     
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