6-3 Ruling strikes down New York Conceal Carry

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  1. Sackeshi

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    If gangs only killed other gang members they would be a non issue. Like I could give zero cares if a gang member is killed by another gang member. How many non gang members do they kill? Mass shootings are a bigger issue.
     
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    This, unfortunately, seems to be a common notion within the progressive crowd. Is this also why DAs continue to release violent criminals from pre trial incarceration, and are evacuating jails? It really says something to the rest of us just how willing folks, like you are, to continue to tolerate this crime. And since gang crime constitute the massive majority of mass shootings, your commentary it incredibly self conflicting.
     
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    Are you ****ing kidding me right now?

    You want me to cite for you every little kid murdered in a drive by, every parent executed in a kick door robbery or simply beaten and shot in front of their children?
    You think that happens less than mass shootings do?
    Where are your parents?
     
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    The Constitution applies in states that have high population density.
     
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    So I'll mark you down as a nonbeliever in the Constitution.
    Leftists and their rule by emotion.
     
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    I see Trump is living rent free in your brain.
     
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    Trump lives rent free in the minds of most of the woke secular progressive left…
     
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    I'm not a woke progressive lol, I am an economic progressive that is pro life which includes being against gun rights.
     
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    Sucks when they up hold that stupid constitution thingy?
     
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    Sorry, but no one walks out after being caught for murder. You've been played.

    Ironically Giuliani implemented pretty tough gun laws in NY and homicide rates came down. Time will tell what happens now. Maybe nothing happens. Typically big cities are a different ballgame compared to rural areas and less densely populated areas, but obviously Constitution applies the same. Scalia argued there is leeway for regulation, but he is dead and buried.
     
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    [QUOTE="Sackeshi, post: 1073532765, member: 79202
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    There it is folks
     
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    IF you must show "just cause" for exercising a right, then you must do so for all protected rights
     
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    And yet they do. And DAs around the nation are downgrading charges, and in the process, even murderers are getting out. It happens.
     
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    The hill that liberals die on.
     
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    The metal bullet wasn't created until the mid 1800s so what we consider "arms" and what the founders considered "arms" are different. The guns they had were muskets that fired up to 3 shots per minute and required gun powerder be loaded in and pushed down and then the ball dropped in and fired.

    Yeah so even if they did mean (they didn't) every individual has a god given right to own a gun regardless of their states wishes, it would be a completely different item they talked about.
     
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    Is that the Democrat voter talking point? The NY governor tried that too

    If that's the case, then free speech never included discussing homosexuals or transgenders so we need to restrict that too......................right?


    Or, do we just trounce on the rights of which you do not like?
     
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    If you think people are committing murder because they think they'll just be let go, then so be it. Such argument is detached from reality, but whatever gets you through the night.
     
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    Its not the SCs job to assess the effectiveness of legislation. Thats our job. The SCs job is to determine whether legislation is constitutional or not. If We The People want only the wealthy and well-connected to be able to obtain a permit to carry a firearm, then we have to amend the constitution to make such discrimination lawful. Thats all there is to it.
     
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    Congratulations to all my American friends. It's a great day for freedom.
     
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    Mass shootings average about five deaths a year in California over the last thirty years. Gun banners accentuate the problems of mass shootings to advance their dishonest political agenda. 77% of mass shootings involve handgun users and 74% of the shooters are black. These facts don't help the gun banners jihad against modern sporting rifles
     
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    well if someone isn't worried about the penalty for murder how is a malum prohibitum offense concerning say magazine capacity or semi auto rifles going to deter them
     
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    The reason crime went down after the 80s was access to abortion starting in 73.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if some areas have harsher penalties for possession of an 11 round magazine than murder in the coming decades.
     
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    well if that is the case, someone caught merely possessing the magazine can waste a ton of people and it won't result in a longer sentence? It's time for the Supremes to strike down all the idiotic state laws that don't meet the strict scrutiny test. And what really needs to happen is to allow citizens to sue those who deprive them of their constitutional rights under 42 USC 1983
     
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    Don't forget the increasing availability of cell phones making police response a much greater threat to criminals.

    I've heard some attribute it partly to reductions in lead poisoning, though I'm not sure how true that is.

    Any explanation worth it's salt also has to explain why it occurred worldwide in almost every area of the world, most of them with heavily varying laws on all sorts of issues.

    That's what makes me suspect cell phones might be behind a fair chunk of it.
     

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