Trump demanded Secret Service let rally attendees in with weapons

The fantasy of a few dozen selfie takers that got a little upset, broke a few windows, and then fked off half an hour later, that got spun into a masturbatory 'insurrection' narrative.

 

Have you noticed we are on Page 9 and not a single MAGA has directly addressed the claim that T**** was informed the crowd was armed, he wanted them in his rally in that armed state, then go to the Capitol directly afterwards??

Doesn't that support the claim that T**** should have easily known violence was possible, even probable, that day?

Wouldn't you think you'd at least TRY to come up with some explanation for that? (Other than RINO woman bad)

Or Shut up completely?

 

And what was the final score on weapons actually being used?

 

I gather Mutant Ninja T**** went after the agent who was trying to keep him away from the wheel (not the driver), but I laughed anyway....

Russia, if you are listening, I hope somebody makes that image their forum avatar.....

 

2 days prior to 1/6, I predicted to my son that the Trumpers would storm the capital and hold Pelosi et al hostage until they agreed to overturn the election

I added some hyperbole, but the possibility of violence seemed to me to be a distinct possibility

For any of the leaders on either side to not have realized the same is really questionable

 

It's all that needs to be done. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

 

The "crowd was armed"? As in how many of the crowd. I heard a few Proud Boys carried weapons but I don't remember a general presence of weapons. Asher Babbit wasn't carrying. Nor were most of the people the Capitol Police invited in.

 

BOLD 1 - Who the hell would know that? Also, who the hell but a MAGA would care?

How many in the crowd were wearing shoes? (With that crowd, I'm guessing sub 60%)

Good old Asher.... Gone, soon to be forgotten...

BOLD 2 - So you are telling us that SOME people the Capitol Police invited in were carrying?? That's breaking news.... When is your hearing appearance??

 

If you're claiming the crowd was "armed" you should be able to back it up.

How many in the crowd were wearing shoes? (With that crowd, I'm guessing sub 60%)

Nope. Just pointing out the "armed crowd" image is largely a LW lie.

 

Good question, and I'd have to go back and review. I didn't get to watch all of it live. Off of the top of my head, I think there was testimony about Meadows burning documents. If that can be corroborated, that's a slam-dunk for intent and guilt of conscience.

As for the attempts to overthrow the election overall, I don't think we'll see Trump or any of his political goons go down for the riot. I do think we will see some (particularly Eastman and Clark) go down for the fake elector scheme. IF Trump faces charges for any of this, it will be for that scheme, and more likely state charges than federal. No of this is to say I think he's innocent, and I will personally through a party if he faces charges for what he did, but prosecutors are going to be jumpy about pulling the trigger on that, both out avoiding the appearance of bias and out of fear of finding an impartial jury. More than likely, they will just settle for taking out his enablers and hope that sends the message. I hope I am wrong.

 

Then you need to reword your sentence, because that's exactly what you insinuated (even if accidentally)...

 

Actually, it was a trick question. It was clearly the OP of this thread.... T**** being told his supporters were not coming in in the expected numbers because of their weapons vs metal detectors and him saying, let's get em in here and they can go to the Capitol from here...

SNIP
But when we were in the offstage announce tent, I was part of a conversation — I was in — I was in the vicinity of a conversation where I overheard the President say something to the effect of, you know, I - - I don't effing care that they have weapons.

They're not here to hurt me. Take that effing mags away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in. Take the effing mags away.
ENDSNIP

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108396692/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

Sending an ARMED mob to the Capitol is much worse than the generic "Fight like Hell" rhetoric we knew about...

 

"insinuated"? Seems pretty clear to me.

 

It's clear that the Capitol Police let people carrying weapons into the Capitol??

Fair enough... stand by that then...

 

What would it actally take for you to believe it?!
You know they will have the SS agent testify. If he corroborates will you believe him? It's unbelievable what the right does and does not believe. P.T. Barnum would be so proud.

 

Nope. That was an example of UNARMED people in the building

 

Of course, if tRUMP does not say it, it did not happen or exist.

 

The NSA, CIA, DHS, and FBI were found complicit in the left's Russian fraud schemes. You think they don't also have people in the PPD as well? No, I wont believe it. Nothing in this 6-Jan farce is to be believed. Its just some last ditch effort to fabricate jussssst enough justification for the Biden DOJ to lay charges on Trump. Charges which will ultimately be proven false in a real court with real perjury consequences and a real defense team but by that time, wouldn't you know it, the next Presidential election will be over.

 

How about the actual agents instead of hearsay?

Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel during Capitol riot: source

Two Secret Service agents are prepared to testify before Congress that then-President Trump did not lunge at a steering wheel or assault them in an attempt to go to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot, a source close to the Secret Service tells Fox News.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/se...stify-trump-lunge-steering-wheel-capitol-riot

See what happens when you have no first hand corroborated evidenc.

 

Not whatcha said, bucko.... try again... or scroll back up and read your post again if you forgot...

This is what is great about most MAGAs... just can't admit an obvious mistake...

Dig Dig Dig.....

 

How about the Secret Service agents instead of a low level staff testifying to hearsay?

 

As a non-lawyer I call it hearsay. The Dems are a one trick pony., Other than talking about Trump and Trump bashing political theatre they have nothing to run on.

 

Well, if the armed people were actually allowed in, I certainly agree. But if he demanded that the weapons be let in, and then they weren't, and then he told the unarmed people to march (along with his "but I aid peacefully") defense, it's going to be hard to nail him on that. Even if he originally wanted armed people there. I don't think most of the armed people had actually gone to his rally first, but just went directly the the Capitol.

Perhaps that, in combination with him sitting on his hands during the riot, in combination with him saying maybe Pence deserved to be hanged, maybe all of that together, with corroborating evidence, will be enough. It would probably be enough to have any of us put away. Like it or not, though, the DOJ is going to treat Trump with kid gloves . . . or, rather, continue to do so.

With the fake elector plot, it's a lot easier to show Trump's direct role, and that he had been advised it was based on a lie, and that he had been advised it was illegal, all while he was publicly supporting it. Plus we have the audio recording. That one, frankly, worries me more as well. We're much more likely to see it again, it has more public support, people are publicly running for election positions while supporting the Big Lie, more than half of House Republicans supported it, and the next time it very well could reverse the results of an election, or at least create the biggest Constitutional crisis since the Civil War. And with that one we have at least one state prosecutor working on it as well, and I don't think she'll be as skittish as the DOJ is. Anyway, just my two cents. I doubt he'll end up behind bars, but I'll celebrate whether it because of the riots or his fake elector scheme or his long life of legally dubious business dealings, etc.

 

Seems you know nothing about the SS.
But again, if tRUMP does not say it happened, for the cult members, it did not happen.
Multitudes of people under oath will testify about the crazed man, tRUMP, and the cultist will still wait for the "messiah" to say what is true and what is not.
WE , the rest of us, totally understand!