Does reversing abortion laws give all non-white Americans a better socio-economic demographic positi

Most Americans reflect the prevailing view in most advanced, first-world nations, that a woman should have the freedom to make private decisions in such a personal matter, in consultation with medical and spiritual advisers and loved ones whom she trusts, rather than be dictated to by impersonal politicians and bureaucrats, at least until an actual, viable person has developed within her.

A microscopic, mindless clump of cells is not a person.

Following the examples of authoritarian regimes such as Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador in the matter is repugnant to democratic societies.

 

In other words you want emotion to rule society. Not science and facts. Got it. I reject your premise as I prefer science and facts.

And your labeling of a ZEF as "not a person" is the same type of argument slavers made. What's it like knowing that you are advancing the slavery argument?

 

If you are claiming that emotion rules all advanced, democratic nations, and "science" prevails in Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, that is quite nutty.

Your fake correspondence fails miserably, but if you want to liberate microscopic, mindless amalgams of cells, go ahead.

 

If your emotions are not ruling you then by all means, prove me wrong.

Fact: A ZEF has unique human DNA and is life. .... GO!

Go ahead, dig deeper. You just prove my point more.

 

It is a little more complicated, because in Pro-Life states, the white population makes up a larger demographic than the country as a whole.

These Pro-Life laws might not end up having a huge impact on the overall demographic "balance" one way or the other.

I think if we really wanted to get white women to have children, we could make women owning a small dog illegal. Many women would then get lonely and choose to have children. Right now, small dogs are being used as a replacement substitute for women's maternal instincts. This is mostly a phenomena in white women. Women from other cultures/ethnicities are more likely to have children regardless of whether they have a dog or not.

But I think we also have to consider the state of marriage and the family, because at this rate, the way things are going in society, many of these women would just waltz down to a sperm bank to get that child.

 

Yes

 

Do you also hope that minorities treat the little white babies that way?

 

Your silly pretense aside, you may find Iraq, Nicaragua, or El Salvador more in line with you need to deny women freedom in reproductive matters. Advanced western democracies differ.

 

See, you can't do it.

 

I'm not playing your silly game. If you enjoy your delusion that you, Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador are privy to special knowledge that eludes advanced western democracies, you are free to pleasure yourself with that notion, by all means

 

Opposing abortion is not an ethnic issue for most people. I mean, if it was, then it would be as you say: white racists would be promoting it to reduce the number of ethnic minorities. I guess that could be a motive for the pro-abortionists, but I dont think that conclusion can be jumped to yet...

 

Your kind cares little about rights in numerous other areas.

Your side would be more convincing if you actually sided with freedom and choice. As it is, your side is not intellectually consistent in any principles.

 

So following science, facts, and logic are silly games. Gotcha. Now we know where you stand on such issues. Hope you never claim that conservatives are anti-science. Because you've just proven you're the one that is anti-science.

 

Nah we don’t do submission and oppression and slavery. We fight back.

Go ahead and leave. This time when we win, you can take those minorities with you.

 

This time when you “win” you want the minorities to leave the country? What are you winning exactly because it isn’t the votes of the people.

 

Well, it's pretty simple, no matter your view on abortion I think we can all agree it should NOT be decided along cynical demographic lines.

Also, demography is not destiny. A third of all self-identified Hispanics voted for Trump, despite some of his rhetoric. Hispanics are going to continue to slowly turn conservative as the Democrats get progressively more insane.

Indeed, Hispanics have the highest disapproval for Biden of all ethnicities.

All they need is a bit of outreach from the right. A right that shares a lot of their values - hard work, religiosity, etc.

 

had that of been true though, the right would have been pro-abortion

the truth is, white Christians have most of the Abortions in this country

 

if we want more children, teach children abstinence

"Bristol Palin Says Abstinence 'Not Realistic at All'"

https://www.foxnews.com/story/bristol-palin-says-abstinence-not-realistic-at-all

"Bristol Palin Earns $262,000 as Abstinence Ambassador"

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...earns-262000-as-abstinence-ambassador-201154/

"Unmarried Bristol Palin, ‘ambassador for abstinence,’ pregnant again"

https://www.thestar.com/entertainme...ambassador-for-abstinence-pregnant-again.html

 

Stay on topic, FreshAir. You seem to have a problem doing that.

 

that is the topic is it not... having more children

it was a reply to your comment, --> "I think if we really wanted to get white women to have children, we could make women owning a small dog illegal."

so was your comment off-topic the one I replied too?

and I am definitely not the topic, so please stay on topic, thanks

 

The FACTS are that these anti-abortion laws will ONLY apply to poor and mentally ill women. The middle class and upper class women will
simply travel to states where abortions are permitted. And we will end up right back where we were in the 1960's, when the nation was far
more conservative than it is now, but the weekly horror stories about back ally abortions led to the decision of Roe v Wade.

Whatever - stupid people are doomed to not learn from history.

 

So, you admit RvW was a political ruling based on horror stories of back alley abortions.

And sorry, I have no sympathy for those that kill other humans.

One concession to what you said though. Yes, it will affect poor people more than the rich. So people should campaign against abortion in those States that allow it. Preferably using science, facts, and logic.

 

Extremists such as yourself at the authoritarian repression end of the spectrum - as well as your mirror images at the opposite extreme - lie, frequently.
There is no credible embryologist who will tell you that a microscopic, mindless clump of cells in early-stage pregnancy is a person, although it may develop into one later in the gestative process.

That is one reason why scientifically advanced nations recognize a woman's rights and respect her reproductive freedom, while Iraq, Nicaragua, El Salvador, and you are in denial of science in order to arrogate such rights to your bureaucrats and politicians.The State's take-over of wombs, promoted by zealots, is moral regression.

 

No it sure as hell won’t be if we are discussing minorities oppressing , subjugating and enslaving white people. No the votes of the people will be irrelevant at that point and the only thing that will matter is that we refused to give up the second.

 

Thats cute
The thing is your guns won’t really protect you from indirect laws. Look at women right now, they are being stripped of the most essential unconditional Liberty and the pew pew brigade are the ones cheering it on.
You think they will never come after you?

If you don’t don’t own yourself you own nothing.

Like I said, I am glad I have easy access to several nations listed in the top 10 freest places to live — the US isn’t on that list and drops every year.

I hope y’all get everything you have worked so hard to achieve