Does reversing abortion laws give all non-white Americans a better socio-economic demographic positi

I don't have a clue what a "ZEF" is, but I know that slaves had working brains, and as such were humans and should have been treated thusly. The past being impossible to revisit, not much we can do about it, but confusing a brainless clump of cells with a human is also a mistake. I'm fine with restricting abortion... As soon as there are measurable brainwaves. We use that metric to define clinical death, even if we can keep the body running on machines, so it works for defining the beginning, too. It's also the most logical choice.

 

So according to your logic someone could go up to a person without brain function, being kept alive on machines, strangle them until the rest of their body ceases to function and they shouldn’t be charged with murder?

 

I tell you what you don’t even have to answer the last one.

Let’s assume a woman aborts a fetus who does have brain function… should the woman be charged with murder?

 

I am not aware of any group that aborts more fetus’s than babies born in a give year. What group are you speaking of and how many babies do you believe are born vs fetuses aborted in each year?

 

So you plan to keep affirmative action even if it starts benefiting white above other races?

 

Depends on a multitude of factors, the biggest I can think of off the top of my head being is she going to die herself if she doesn't. But, depending on the circumstances it's worthy of discussion, yes. As for the braindead dude being sent to prison, would never happen. No matter what "he" might have been guilty of, because the part of him which made him human has gone elsewhere.

I actually died myself in late 2017 or early 2018, so I've been to that place already. It was rather pleasant, despite my status as a non-believing man-slut. Well, I believe our consciousness survives death (actually, I know it from personal experience), but if I could snap my fingers and make religion, especially of the western variety disappear, I would do so in half a heartbeat.

It takes 22 weeks for a fetus to form a brain and turn it on. If you can't figure out you're preggo by then, and what you want to do, you just may be braindead yourself.

 

Does it have its own unique DNA 5 minutes afterwards? No. That takes longer than 5 minutes to form.

 

Your argument is flawed. There is a difference between a growing brain, and a brain that is dead.

 

Pets are replacing children for the most part. It’s why certain crazy owners call themselves parents when they have a pet. They’re insane. Deep down they know a pet is disposable/exchangeable and a child really is not. Dogs especially provide loyalty and unquestioned love. Someone completely ill equipped to raise children can have a pet without question and it will love them no matter how crazy they are, assuming they’re not abusing the pet. It’s sort of a mental disease.

I’ve listened to certain people at work talk about what a week they’re having due to pet issues. Seriously? Have children, haha. Then you might have a sense of what hard work is.

 

It is true, the vast majority of women who actually get abortions tend to be black women.

and yet Democrat Politicians support abortion.

so many things that the Democrat Politicians do, to keep the black people down.

They started the KKK too.

 

I dont understand. You say you know our consciousness survives death. Yet you don’t believe in a God?

 

Although black Americans comprise 13.4% of the U.S. population, they accounted for 36.0% of the abortions in 2015, which was almost identical to the percentage of abortions (36.9%) that year among white Americans, who make up 76.6% of the population.
CDC: 36% of Abortions Abort Black Babies
As the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) documented in its Abortion Surveillance report for 2015 – released on Nov. 23, 2018 – there were 124,893 white abortions and 121,829 black abortions that year, a difference of 3,064 babies killed.
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/blacks-make-134-population-36-abortions

Tragic report: More Black babies are aborted in New York City than are born
The most recent data available shockingly reveals that in 2016, more Black babies were killed by abortion than were born in New York City. The data also shows that in 2016, Black abortions accounted for nearly 40 percent (38.7%) of all abortions in NYC. These alarming statistics reveal how abortion is decimating the Black community and is also hurting other minority groups. Out of 60,000 (59,854) total abortions reported in NYC, nearly 67 percent (66.7%) were committed on minority Black (23,209) and Hispanic women (16,71 leaving some to speculate that there is a targeted eugenics agenda at work.
https://www.liveaction.org/news/black-babies-aborted-new-york-city-born/

 

I do not “plan” on doing anything — I do not make legislation. As to what I support, I have never supported affirmative action in any capacity.

 

So you picked one city — in one year — and applied that as a general statistic?

Are you glad black populations are about to explode?

 

If 13% of the population has 36% of all abortions, how is the black population going to explode?

 

Because... You said so?

No brainwaves=no life. That's the standard we use at the end of life, I see no reason it should be any different at the beginning.

 

I guess you've never lost a dog that you've "owned" since they were a puppy. I got news for you, we humans don't own dogs, they own us. In fact, our little one found my wife one day while she was driving home from work. She saw the dog, out in a field, went to check and she was covered in fleas, ticks, and ants, and was so skinny, it is my belief that she wouldn't have survived another 24 hours.

Well, she jumped in the car and told my wife to take her home, which she did, we nursed her back to health, and now some 9 years later, she's sitting in my lap as I type this.

Our big one is across the room sleeping on the floor. She's going on 15 and is showing it.

So, yeah, when they pass it's absolutely going to feel like losing a kid.

 

You could call it "a" god, I suppose, though I very much prefer the term Source. The word "god" has way too much religious baggage attached to it, and 99% of Americans think if you say that, you're talking about some entity that is separate and superior to us little people, that's even got a name!

Rather, I think of it more as pure unadulterated consciousness that seeks to better itself, though I'm not sure I can define what that means very well.

And we, and every other life form, at least as we think of them, are just small parts of the whole, carved off to go play a video game called 'human life', and we play it over and over until it gets boring, or we learn the things we are here to learn in the first place, and we move on to some higher life form. Dolphins, perhaps. Or even some form of life on another planet.

But the source is not some sort of authority figure, and you don't get called to his office as though he was the principal, because we are all source.

I think I did a pretty crappy job of explaining that, if I confused you just let me know.

 

Nope.

 

You are assuming unwanted pregnancy is static, there will be the same number of pregnancies regardless of abortion availability. That’s not human nature.

Penalize behavior you want to reduce, reward behavior you want to increase. The govt applies that to do social engineering via the tax code.

If a man and woman knew they would have to raise and pay for a baby if she gets pregnant, they will do more to avoid pregnancy.

 

This doesn't give "ALL" of any group "ALL" of anything. Each state will be different. New York and California will have free and open abortion. So will some other states. Some states won't. This "ALL" is typical radical left wing propaganda BS.

 

And what are these “protections”? Do they get stopped less often for traffic offences? Are they treated more deferentially by police? Do they have a better chance at getting a high paying job? Do they pay less for the same services?

 

Oh! What bunkum! Sheer twaddle! One of the reasons that America’s abortion rate is higher than Canada’s - which btw has no restrictions is that for many years “abstinence only sex Ed was taught

 

You mean you can't tell the obvious difference between a brain that is dead and a brain that is growing? There is a huge scientific difference you know.

And no, the standard for science is not "brain-waves=no life". A biologist would laugh in your face for such a comment. A tree is alive. Doesn't mean it has brainwaves, or ever will. Here's the simple definition for life.

LINK: LIFE English Definition and Meaning | Lexico.com

Notice how your "brain dead" example doesn't fit in? As its non-functioning and never will function ever again.

 

Because y’all just banned or severely limited abortion in the most populous states — I figured that would be apparent. Care to answer the question?