Trump Calls 'Hoax' on Nuclear Documents Report, Urges Warrant Release

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    Former President Donald Trump says he is "encouraging the immediate release" of documents related to the FBI's search of his Florida estate while rejecting reports that agents had searched his home for documents related to nuclear weapons.

    "Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents, even though they have been drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and powerful vested interest in attacking me, much as they have done for the last 6 years," Trump said in a statement issued late Thursday…


    …While insisting he wants the records behind the search released, Trump blamed the search and seizure of documents on politics and called it an "unprecedented political weaponization of law enforcement."
    "My poll numbers are the strongest they have ever been, fundraising by the Republican Party is breaking all records, and midterm elections are fast approaching," he said in the Thursday night statement, calling the raid on his home "inappropriate and highly unethical."…

    …"The world is watching as our Country is being brought to a new low, not only on our border, crime, economy, energy, national security, and so much more but also with respect to our sacred elections!" he said. "Release the documents now!"

    Meanwhile, Trump early Friday, in comments posted to his Truth Socialaccount, disputed a Washington Postreport that said, quoting an unnamed source, that the classified documents concerned nuclear weapons….






    Read more news: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-warrant-raid/2022/08/12/id/1082818/






    What President Trump is reported as saying here by NewsMax is exactly right. The warrant issued by the fascist regime and the documents that led to its creation need to be made public. America and the rule of law are being dragged low by this raid and those who authorized it.
     
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    Is this Trump calling the bluff on the democrats? I hope so. :)
     
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    And now the evil fascist regime is going nuclear in defense of its unprecedented rash actions.
     
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    Fine, then release the warrant. Trump could release it anytime he wants. And he can tell the judge to unseal that copy or not by 3 pm Eastern Time.
     
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    We don't know the source of the nuclear claims. I'm not accepting it until i see the source.

    Trump has the warrant and can release it anytime.

    The affidavit will not be made public unless charges are filed.
     
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    Yes, Trump wants the DOJ to release the underlying affidavit, so he can know what they know.

    Criminals always want to know what the government knows so they can plan their defense. He will get it when he is on trial.

    The warrant is in Trump's possession, and could release it at any time.

    The affidavit will not be released until Trump is charged.
     
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    Why is the burden on Trump to justify the FBI actions? And the affidavit could be release, highly unusual but could be released.

    Document: Justice Department Releases Carter Page FISA Application

    Pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, the Justice Department has—in a highly unusual move—released a redacted copy of the FISA application seeking a warrant against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page. The application became the subject of political controversy when the Republican majority on the House intelligence committee, on the basis of little evidence, accused the FISA Court and Justice Department of enabling the surveillance of Page for political rather than national security reasons.

    The document is available in full below.
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-justice-department-releases-carter-page-fisa-application
     
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    yea, a redacted FISA was released long after the decision was made whether or not to press charges.

    Maybe in a year or two you can FOIA the affidavit and see what you get.
     
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    Wannabe Dictator Benito Trump called the allegation that he had top secret nuclear docs at Mar-a-Lago a hoax, which in Trump speak means it is true.
     
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    Thats strange, how does one explain this
    Attorney General Merrick Garland on Thursday said that the Justice Department had filed a request in court to unseal the search warrant and property receipt from the search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

    trump can say whatever he wants to his faithful magapatriots but there is a legal process he must follow to actually have them released by the government. Of course he could stop fleecing his base and just release everything himself — wonder why that hasn’t happened?
     
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    it's so frustration to constantly repeat this and have it be completely ignored.
     
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    Trump could stop milking this for sympathy and money and be open and honest for once. Now THAT would be highly unusual.
     
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    It could be released now. Garland could explain more now.


    ....Access to search warrant applications, returns, and supporting materials (such as affidavits) implicates the First Amendment as well as state law. The United States Supreme Court held in Globe Newspaper Co. v. Superior Court and Richmond Newspapers, Inc. v. Virginia that the First Amendment grants the public and the press a qualified First Amendment right to attend criminal trials. And, in Press-Enterprise Co. v. Superior Court, the Court held that this First Amendment right also applies to pretrial proceedings in criminal cases. However, there is some disagreement among jurisdictions about whether there is a First Amendment-based right of access to search warrant materials.

    The Eighth Circuit recognized a First Amendment right of access to search warrants in In re Search Warrant for Secretarial Area Outside Office of Thomas Gunn (Gunn I). In Gunn I, the Eighth Circuit framed the test for overcoming the First Amendment right and the procedures to be followed in this way:

    The party seeking closure or sealing must show that such a restriction of the first amendment right of public access is necessitated by a compelling government interest. If the district court decides to close a proceeding or seal certain documents, it must explain why closure or sealing was necessary and why less restrictive alternatives were not appropriate. The district court’s findings must be specific enough to enable the appellate court to determine whether its decision was proper; if the district court decides that a restriction of the first amendment right of public access is warranted, the district court can even file its statement of reasons and specific findings under seal. (Citations omitted.)

    Other jurisdictions, including the Fourth Circuit, have not recognized a constitutional right. But even in these jurisdictions, some right of access generally does exist. For example, the Fourth Circuit in Baltimore Sun Co. v. Goetz, 886 F.2d 60 (4th Cir. 1989), recognized a qualified common law right of access, holding that a judicial officer may only deny access to search warrant materials “when sealing is ‘essential to preserve higher values and is narrowly tailored to serve that interest.'” The standard for sealing search warrants under the common law in the Fourth Circuit is very nearly the same as the First Amendment standard articulated in Gunn I.

    As the Eighth Circuit did in Gunn I, the Fourth Circuit in Baltimore Sun imposed procedural requirements on judges issuing orders to seal search warrant materials. The public has a right to notice of a sealing order and an opportunity to voice objections. Moreover, the court must make findings of fact and conclusions of law regarding the public interest in openness versus closure and the tailoring of the sealing order sufficient to allow for appellate review of the sealing order—“conclusory assertions are insufficient; specificity is required.”
    https://www.brookspierce.com/digital-media-and-data-privacy-law-blog/Media-Access-to-Search-Warrants
     
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    Open and honest about what? It is Garland and the FBI who are the protagonist here and have the obligation to fully explain their actions to the American people.
     
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    Nonsense! A defendant is allowed to shape his defense prior to going to trial. You've never heard about discovery?
     
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    So why doesn’t he release the list of what they took?
     
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    Donald would probably be embarrassed to admit that the agents who conducted the search got closer to Melania's Panties than he has in ages...
     
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    Yep, Garland and the FBI are the protagonists. The good guys investigating the bad guy. You keep siding with the gangster for some odd reason.
     
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    It's so much easier to BS people without annoying facts getting in the way.
     
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    Nah, he is right to stretch it out, the burden of proof are the dastardly DNC, they know their adoring base will eat this stuff up regardless of validity :)

    The rest of the intelligent country will see it as just another DNC underhanded tactic to discredit someone they hate, Republican.. Trump is just the grand opening for this new Russia, N Korea style politics ;)
     
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    Maybe his LAWYERS are advising him not to, I know it prolly sounds weird, but it just might be that... :whisper::roflol:
     
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    They actually don't have that obligation, just like they don't any time they serve a warrant on anyone. But, they should, because of Trump's status as an ex-president. It is in the country's best interest to know right now, even if the FBI is not technically obligated to tell us, because if they don't Trump and his allies will just fill in the blanks with all the usual nonsense and victim narratives they usually do.

    Trump is already calling this a hoax, as he always does when he is held to task for something. I saw that he listed off all the prior investigations as hoaxes, which of course they weren't, with possibly a mild exception for the Russian collusion accusations that occurred in the media before the facts were known.
     
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    Trump should milk this illegal and unethical act by the current regime for all that it is worth
     
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