The Truth about Immigration

What a crock of crap.

It's not about what the xenophobes in America want, it's about what sane Americans want, and what they want is for the jobs to get filled because, I don't know about you, when I check into a hotel, I expect the sheets to be clean, and the beds made, and when I go to a restaurant, I expect service, and when I walk around town, I expect the landscape to be tended to, and in the factories and warehouses, I expect the goods to reach the shelves, and guess what, it's immigrants who fill most of those jobs.

Lower income worker? what are you talking about? I see 'we're hiring' posters all over San Diego County so where are these 'low income American workers' you are referring to?

 

I can't imagine you could be that confused, but apparently it's so. Perhaps you know of some secret evil society known as "Mega"?

You have a ton of opinions, but apparently- no actual solutions. Neither do the democrats in general. they make work, create appearances, raise a lot of dust, make noise- and accomplish nothing of value.
Come back when you have realistic solution or can align yourself with someone who does. Some people profit by keeping the pot boiling with trouble, and they don't want solutions. They fear they would lose power if the problems got solved- and they are right. First step is get the hell away from such people, stop letting their thinking run your mind.

 

So you ignore that employers broke the law hiring illegals. Got it.

 

For all those who think immigrants are just good people looking for a better home- Update.

You probably don't remember the Fidel Castros sending us 1700 boatloads of immigrants over 40 years ago- something similar is happening again. .
Same trick, different dictator.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – According to a recent intelligence report sent to U.S. Customs and Border Protection by the Department of Homeland Security, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro Moros has been releasing a flood of violent inmates – including rapists, murderers, and extortionists – from the depths of their prisons and sending them to the U.S. border, where the criminals have been repeatedly attempting to illegally cross over.

U.S. Border Patrol has been instructed to keep an eye out for this surge of prisoners who are aiming to enter the country, who have been attempting to mix in with various other migrant caravans hailing from Tapachula, Mexico. The incident is conjuring comparisons to the infamous 1980 Mariel boatlift, when then-Cuban dictator Fidel Castro allowed a mass migration of his citizens – including numerous criminals from his prisons – to the United States amid a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy, with as many as 125,000 reaching Florida by boat.

The 50 immigrants sent to Martha's Vineyard were from- Venezuela....

 

I am not confused. I am just not buying your BS. I have traveled extensively in my personal and professional career. But I will never come up with that type of analysis in any country I have been to, even with local internal, and political conflicts that you have done. With Venezuela, it is not quite as simplistic as you might think. Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but put them in their shoes with the constant debt, the crash of the oil industry, the promises to help the poor, and so forth. There is no social security, no welfare, no medicare, none of that prior to Chavez. And my synopsis is far more comprehensive than yours. You left out a lot of history, intentionally I might add. You may have been there, but you looked but did not see, hear but do not understand, think but do not analyze what you are actually thinking, For immigration, I have 30 years of experience as a volunteer and know a lot about the system we have, what it does, what it does not do, the problems it has, etc. i am my own man. Conservative Churches may be against gay marriage, gay "lifestyle," and abortion, but they generally do have a caring heart, and they, based on Matthew 28:32, support missionaries throughout the world including places like Venezuela, China, and elsewhere. That is something you will never acknowledge in your myopic political agenda.

The only thing you can come up with is to speak of generalities based on your myopic political agenda, the Great White, Conservative "Hope." The world does not react that way, never has, never will. Your freedoms are just as intact today here in the US as they were 10 days ago or even the day you were born because you are a White, Conservative Male. Not so much for a woman who now has to decide an extremely difficult decision for her and the baby or risk going to jail for doing what is best medically.

 

Do you really want to go to Little Havana in Miami and cite that garbage to Cuban Americans? Or how about Marco Rubio's Parents about that. They immigrated in 1956 when Cuba fell to Castro because of Baptista's policies. Or how about Ted Cruz's father?

Yes I do remember. It is why we have the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1980. It is why Clinton made the Feet wet, Feet Dry policy. But it is not just Cubans, is it. Let's Try Vietnamese and the 1970s after we left with our tails between our legs from the Vietnam War. They came and they have prospered here despite the hardships.

Yes, Breitbart, the website with an extremely questionable reputation. The 50 migrants were in San Antonio from Venezuela. They were in the process of adjudication for their asylum claims, have already been vetted by USCIS/CBP, etc. Breitbart is not telling you that, are they? Just want to stoke fear among a group of desperate people.

 

Having a hard time grasping reality, I see. Can't help you; that is an internal problem.

 

Never follow Breitbart, never even gone there, I see you obviously do.

 

Trump slowed to a trickle all Legal Immigration.

" President Trump entered the White House with the goal of reducing legal immigration by 63 percent. Trump was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration. By November 2020, the Trump administration reduced the number of green cards issued to people abroad by at least 418,453 and the number of non‐immigrant visas by at least 11,178,668 during his first term through November 2020. "

 

Sounds like you're describing Far Right Politics

Lots of Finger Pointing however no solutions

 

You live in San Diego Country? I know I do so read on....and learn something new today. It isn't a crock at all. The influx of unchecked illegal immigration also hurts the high skilled workers too. Let's put America workers first!

"Anyone who tells you that immigration doesn’t have any negative effects doesn’t understand how it really works. When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. Wage trends over the past half-century suggest that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular set of skills probably lowers the wage of that group by at least 3 percent. Even after the economy has fully adjusted, those skill groups that received the most immigrants will still offer lower pay relative to those that received fewer immigrants.

Both low- and high-skilled natives are affected by the influx of immigrants. But because a disproportionate percentage of immigrants have few skills, it is low-skilled American workers, including many blacks and Hispanics, who have suffered most from this wage dip. The monetary loss is sizable. The typical high school dropout earns about $25,000 annually. According to census data, immigrants admitted in the past two decades lacking a high school diploma have increased the size of the low-skilled workforce by roughly 25 percent. As a result, the earnings of this particularly vulnerable group dropped by between $800 and $1,500 each year.

We don’t need to rely on complex statistical calculations to see the harm being done to some workers. Simply look at how employers have reacted. A decade ago, Crider Inc., a chicken processing plant in Georgia, was raided by immigration agents, and 75 percent of its workforce vanished over a single weekend. Shortly after, Crider placed an ad in the local newspaper announcing job openings at higher wages. Similarly, the flood of recent news reports on abuse of the H-1B visa program shows that firms will quickly dismiss their current tech workforce when they find cheaper immigrant workers."

Yes, Immigration Hurts American Workers - POLITICO Magazine

 

You didn't disprove what I wrote. You moved the goal posts and that's a fail.

 

So many lies... so VERY many lies...
- The "MAGA crowd" does NOT want to "ban abortion with no exceptions". The vast majority agree with the Supreme Court that the issue should be settled BY THE VOTERS IN EACH STATE.
- The MAGA crowd does NOT want to do with LEGAL immigration. That is just a lie. If you'll remember, President Trump limited immigration from TERRORIST countries. It had nothing to do with race or religion. That is clearly demonstrated when he made no new limitations at all to immigrants from Indonesia, the most populated muslim nation on earth.
- Any sovereign nation has the right to determine who does and does not enter their country, All the bloviating about currency, foreign politics, foreign economies, foreign regimes and all the other blather notwithstanding.
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I grasp reality all the time. It is you and your ideological BS that does not grasp reality.

 

More deflection. And yet, your link was a Breitbart article son.

BTW this is the embedded link in your post https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...nds-violent-criminals-to-u-s-says-dhs-report/

 

Yeah, which is why even when there was a bipartisan agreement, IIRC 2013, it still didn't pass because of the R's.

The Repubs on the Hill have no intention of letting this be resolved. It's too useful a tool to hook their base, and they are just starting to realize that loosing a tool like that can have unintended consequences. That's what they are realizing with overturning RvW.

 

So you are citing an oped by an author who shares his work with NumbersUSA, CIS, and other immigration restrictionist group. Second, the reason for the stagnant wage for the past 4 decades is the fact of the FED keeping interest rates artificially low. And yet, cost of living increases have gone up in room and board, aka housing, food, etc, while keeping hourly wages down.

So which is it? If the conservative argument is not to increase wages because it causes inflation, then getting rid of immigrants will, according to Dr. Borjas work will increase wages. Or do we allow immigrants in keeping inflation low while "hurting Americans significantly?"

Or to put it bluntly, did Dr. George J. Borjas actually hurt Americans when he immigrated or helped? According to him, mass immigration influx hurts Americans.

 

They are leading the charge on banning abortions at the state level, banning books at school libraries at the local level, and so forth. Not lies, just inconvenient truths. And the Mega crowd wants to make sure "you don't mix a donkey with a thoroughbred" type of argument when it comes to immigration.

Second, Indonesia is one of our closes allies in SE Asia to fight Islamic terrorism. It may be Muslim, but it is nothing like Saudi Arabia or worse, Afghanistan.

No one is arguing who has the right, but to stop people based on religion, ethnicity, or national origin goes back to the 1924 Immigration Policy, an extremely racist policy in our past.

 

That is a disingenuous claim. It's not 'statistical calculations' which implies mathematical manipulation which is not what the data is, what the data is is data, supporting data, as if FACTS, NOT 'statistical calculations' which implies contrived math. Borjas is not being honest.

George Borjas is an outlier. None of his vacuous proclamations are supported by data, he just bloviates. He ADMITS 'we don't need facts'.

Here, he is debunked, with supporting data:

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/anti-immigration-review-george-borjas-we-wanted-workers

Also, there are 'we're hiring' all over san diego, so where are the workers you claim exist?

He's talking trash and cherry picking.

Also, you can't replace skilled jobs with unskilled workers, so I don't believe his claim.

On skilled jobs, take QualComm, most of their tech employees are from India. they have a few thousand of them in San Diego. Okay, where are the Americans? There aren't any.

 

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SURE

Republican Governors to Migrants: Go Away

Govs. Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis are using asylum seekers as political tools.

 

NONSENSE


January 28, 2021

11 Years of Government Data Reveal That Immigrants Do Show Up for Court

The main findings of the report include:

• 83% of nondetained immigrants with completed or pending removal cases attended all of their hearings.
• 96% of nondetained immigrants represented by a lawyer attended all of their hearings.
• 15% of those who were ordered deported because they did not appear in court successfully reopened their cases and had their removal orders rescinded. In some years, as many as 20% of all orders of removal for missing court were later overturned.
• Individuals who apply for relief from removal have especially high rates of appearance.
• Appearance rates vary strongly based on the immigration court’s location.
• The Executive Office for Immigration Review’s method for measuring the rate at which immigrants fail to appear in court presents a limited picture of the frequency of missed court appearances.

“Today’s report verifies what those who have worked in the immigration court system already knew: immigrants overwhelmingly show up in court.
https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...vernment-data-reveal-immigrants-do-show-court

 

Between February 2020 (prior to the pandemic) and February 2022, the labor force participation rate declined 2.1 percentage points, from 63.4% to 62.3%. That translates into 3 million fewer workers today. Demographic shifts explain part of the longer-term decline over the past decades


The median age of male Americans increased from 34 years old at the peak of LFP in 2000 to 37.2 years old in 2019. The aging of the baby-boom generation is increasing the percentage of the population that is over age 65, and therefore lowering the percentage of males who are in the labor force.

Since the peak in January 2000, the national LFP rate has fallen gradually from 67 percent to 63 percent in January 2020. Both male and female LFP fell between 2000 and 2020, with female LFP falling 2.3 percentage points during that period and male LFP falling 5.8 percentage points.

https://www.richmondfed.org/publications/research/econ_focus/2021/q1/district_digest

 

Where was the right? The GOP? Get serious

US Chamber of Commerce
Total Contributions by Party of Recipient:

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/us-chamber-of-commerce/totals?id=D000019798

Republicans have new idea to fix labor shortage: Loosen child labor laws
https://www.salon.com/2021/11/03/have-new-idea-to-fix-labor-shortage-loosen-child-labor-laws/


Where Are All the “Pro-Worker” Republicans Now?
While employees at Amazon and Starbucks win historic unionization campaigns, the “populist” wing of the GOP has been noticeably silent.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/wo...gop-union-labor-republicans-cruz-hawley-rubio


Rather Than Pass Wage Increases, GOP Legislatures Move to Weaken Child Labor Laws
Lawmakers in Ohio and Wisconsin are pushing to allow 14- and 15-year-olds to work longer hours as exorbitantly wealthy corporations pay their adult employees less than $15 per hour on average.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...gop-legislatures-move-weaken-child-labor-laws