Volleyball Girls Banned From Locker Room For Refusing To Change In Front Of Boy Masquerading As Girl

It would be an argument for why that would be acceptable if people wanted it, sure. I think the relevant phrase is reasonable accommodation. It's not reasonable to accommodate somebody who wants to go to the women's locker room to invade their privacy and stare at them. We don't accommodate harassment. But that's not what a legit trans person is doing. The issue here is that trans people want to live as the gender they feel they are. Part of that is using the locker room that aligns with that. If they can do so without harassing others, then the greatest good would be to allow them to do so and leave them in peace.

 

I know that conservatives just think that trans people are mentally ill and need to accept reality, but that approach is not what benefits them as patients according to medicine.

It's not a huge change if the trans person isn't harassing anybody. It only seems huge because of culture. Simply being naked doesn't need to be a big deal. Like how it seems like a huge deal to not cover a face in Islam... but in reality it's not.

 

The second question is why is a guy with the physical ability of a man competing against girls?

 

No, it's society attempting to normalize mental illness.

 

No, that would be appeasing the delicate sensibilities of ONE person while ignoring the sensibilities of everyone else. Separate changing rooms for the transgendered would be a reasonable accommodation for the one and the greatest good for everyone else.

 

I don't think it's a matter of mere sensibilities on the part of the trans person. Hell the men's locker room very well may be a dangerous place for them. But your solution sounds like an okay option if people really care that much.

 

if it's not an issue, we do not have to spend anything... is it an issue?

if lawsuits cost more, they will want to address it - and both sides seem to want to sue

 

But it is the culture we live in and it is the reality these people live with. To try to change the culture that everyone has spent their lives in is unreasonable, maybe a little bit insane.

 

What law?

 

If it’s not an intimate place then you and I can just walk in while the girls are changing.

 

My first degree is in psychology, this is a libertarian perspective.

the gov isn’t required to make large financial alterations for peoples feelings. It’s beyond stupid to expect 99% of people to share a burden of the 1%. Just like it’s unreasonable for teen girls to be subjected to feelings based political bs. Being naked in front of teens is a big deal.

 

The fiscal reality of changing to individual shower units is large. Unreasonably so. Are you an architect or is this a magic 8 ball question?

 

If a person can transition from one sex to another, can that also be done with race? If not, why?

We didn’t have this problem until progressives wanted to prove how progressive they are and promoted this mentality.

 

Discrimination laws, did you think public schools are allowed to discriminate based on race or gender

 

if lawsuits cost more, they will want to address it - and both sides seem to want to sue

they will weigh the costs I am sure

are you a lawyer and an architect, do you know lawsuits will cost less, I said if, I do not know for sure

 

If frivolous lawsuits are what we base taxpayer funded designs, we should just burn this whole place down and start over as a less stupid species.
my other degree is in construction management, these kinds of topics do not normally make it very far beyond design development phase.

 

My point was that if they're not showering, then you can do large numbers. It's the showering which is the tripping point on efficiency. Conduct all physical activities in the afternoons, and problem solved. I think my problem really is just that I think it's dead weird that kids would ever have to shower at school. Not to mention how much time it takes out of their education.

American schools just don't seem very efficient or cost effective at all. The expense of feeding kids lunch alone, must be astronomical. Most of the world takes their own lunch, and showers at home. Schools really don't need to provide anything but education (mostly) out of the weather. That's it. That's their only job. All these 'home comforts' are expensive, inefficient, and unecessary.

 

it’s not feasible to only have physical education classes in the afternoon, and we don’t have the climate in all of the US to not sweat just because it’s 2 pm. Physical education provides a lot of team-building, exercise, and discipline. And it burns off energy.
The reason our schools are less efficient is because we end up catering to the lowest common denominator instead of holding high standards.

 

nope, gender discrimination was banned, some just found a way to take advance of the system, no different than the rich suing people when they can, like Trump trying to sue all the people he has sued

used to only be the rich that could sue, now non-profits sue for minorities

 

if the lawsuits cost more than the alternative, which is better spent tax payer money?

 

Ironically its more logical to believe in a transrace possibility than it is for transgenderism.

Think about it...who is wholly white in American society? Who is wholly black? The vast VAST majority of people in the US is actually of mixed race. So, genetically and logically speaking claiming to be X race even though others may disagree, is far more reasonable to understand and believe. Obama for instance can go around and claim to be white and he would be telling the truth.

 

A persons beliefs are not a gender. As such there is no gender discrimination.

 

The huge change for the transgender person is when the butchers start hacking up their genitalia and pumping them with hormone drugs.... that is when the suicide rate goes to 40% or higher. Weird how indigenous tribes still living as hunter/gatherers have a transgender rate of 0% and are orders of magnitude happier than 1st world citizens. Transgenderism is a mental illness brought on by too much leisure and not enough duties. The hack doctors promoting and profiting from it should be sent to prison.... those doing it to children should be executed.

 

What discrimination law are you talking that requires a school to allow a boy to be in the girls dressing room while the girls are in that dressing room? There is no such law in my state and certainly no federal law.

 

Wow that’s a lot of assertions with no evidence to back it up.