Why do anti gun extremists hate stories about self defense

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  1. dairyair

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    what restrictions on the possession, acquisition and use of firearms do you claim ARE NOT infringements?
     
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    So, you support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
    Good to know.
     
  4. dairyair

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    Maybe there's a misunderstanding.
    Any infringement is against the explicit words of the 2A.
     
  5. dairyair

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    Do you support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missile?
    Are you a staunch supporter of 2A as the words are explicitly written?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that dog won't hunt. cruise missiles are not arms within the meaning of the amendment nor are things citizens keep and BEAR
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    are you able to tells us what restrictions you do not consider infringements?
     
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    I'm not sure why you think this has any effect on the revaluation that -you- support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
     
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    Why you bringing it up to me?
    I didn't bring cruise missles into the topic.

    I merely asked the one who did a question.
    Ask the person who brought it up.
     
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    Do you support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles?

    It's a yes or no. You are the one who brought it up.
    Can you answer the question?
     
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    YOU support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
    The fact I do or do not similarly support the same has no bearing on this.
     
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    So you do not support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles..

    Good to know.
     
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    The fact I do or do not similarly support the same has no bearing on the fact YOU support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
     
  14. dairyair

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    Oh, now you're dancing.

    Well, is honesty something you cherish? If so, quote my post in support of "the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.".

    In all reality here, nothing you've posted to me supports anything.
    You've done nothing but dance and make up things.
     
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    Not at all.
    YOU support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
    Nothing more need be said.

    You said:

    It's not just about guns.
    It's arms, that is what the 2A is about.
    Keep and Bear Arms. Guns is only 1 small part of Arms.
    And per the 2A, all infringements are not acceptable. The words state "shall not be infringed"


    Thus, you believe the prohibition of any weapon, including nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, is an infringement.
    Thus, YOU support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
     
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    Did the words I posted about what the 2A says, get typed wrong?

    If so, what words are wrong?
     
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    As I said:
    Thus, you believe the prohibition of any weapon, including nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, is an infringement.
    Thus, YOU support the right of the people to keep and bear nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
     
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    My guns are very well behaved. They have never threatened anyone, let alone harmed anyone. But they have provided hours of recreation with competitive shooting and more hours of fun as a hobby gunsmithing. I have hammers, knives and lots of other tools too that COULD be used to harm someone, but never will. Most of the time my guns sit alongside my homeowners insurance policies in a closet. I'm glad they are both around if I need them.
     
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    Sure, and what you want to do is likely an infringement.
    So tell us what it is you want done, and we'll see if its an infringement by trying to get it to pass Bruen's Spear (Trademarked term there ;) ). Cite what you want, and lets see if we can find an historic analog in the 13 original colonies during the era of the Founding.
     
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    Well first you're not anti-gun you're pro-gun it's just who you want to have guns whether or not we live in a police state or a free state.

    Yes they are used in an effort to try and justify ownership and I don't think they need to be used this way there isn't any justification necessary it's a right I don't have to justify why I need to be secure in my papers in person that's the Fourth amendment I'm guaranteed that right by the Constitution I don't have to justify why I choose to be part of a religion and that's my right as part of the Constitution and no other right is challenged quite as much as this one.
     
  21. dairyair

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    You MAGA types need to get your ad homs in sync.

    Do I want no infringements?
    Or,
    Do I want some infringements?

    NOTE: I have NOT said anything for or against the 2A in this thread.
    But You MAGA supporters, sure are all over the place.
     
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  22. dairyair

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    What is it I want to do?
    You claim I want infringement, but what in my posts are you referring to?

    Can you help @TOG 6 out? And his claim about nuclear tipped cruise missiles?

    Do you want citizens to own and bear them?

    He doesn't want citizens to own them? Base on his dance.
    Do you?
     
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    Dude we've been over this: I'm a libertarian, and I did not vote for Donald Trump.

    Name the things you want and we'll discover together whether or not they can pass the test. If they pass they're not infringements.
    I know you support gun control laws, tell us which ones you want and lets see if any of them are things you can have.
     
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    What is it you want to do? IDK I asked you and you keep deflecting. Inexpertly.

    Sure can: So far as the jurisprudence and grammatical analysis show, "arms" in the 2a refers to objects one might bear upon one's person. A cruise missile is not bearable upon one's person.
    But then, all of us including Tog know that which is why Tog responded that way and none of us care because its simply not the gotcha you seem to think it is.

    Base on his dance? Is he capering about all nimbly bimbly?
     
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    The majority of America are thinking people who want a safe environment unlike the minority 2A fundamentalists who seem to be okay when it's "those people" that are killing each other, because I don't want to be "harassed".

    You are not a moderate. You are a radical 2A fundamentalist. Countries all over the world have gun laws that are effective and enforceable, To you any such laws are unacceptable.
    I very much like S 736/HR 1808.
     

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