Should Women Who NEVER Want Children Remain Abstinent Forever?

It's clear to me you have moved beyond the rational and gone into emotional mode.

 

Which words are those? Be specific, b/c I am to unintelligent as an adult to figure it out on my own.

 

A little territorial about that area are you? "IT'S SLAVERY, SLAVERY I TELL YOU"

 

Sperm, Ovum, Zygote, Blastocyst, Embryo, Fetus, Neonate...

 

Ok, now your challenge is to turn all of them, except sperm and ovum into something non-human. Sperm and egg are not people, only after fertilization is new life created.

All the other terms describe a stage of the human life cycle. Define those stages and show us all how any of those terms make the person less then a human being.

 

Why? I have already stated that it's human.

Sperm and ovum are alive. I'll never understand why people say they aren't. A new human is created when they join though, yeah.

Again why? It's not about being a human being or not to me. It's about location, location, location! Perhaps you have heard of the Violinist thought experiment before? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violinist_(thought_experiment)

I don't care at which stage of development a human is in, if it's in my body and I don't want it there I will make it come out.

 

Like your assumption that I'm making an assumption rather than stating a fact?

How so?

Your point being...?

I'd presumably learn something new if I studied astrology as well, but I would not be any more intelligent.

Then you believe people who are inclined to shun them are obligated to listen?

No, I think it's better for those parents to realize WHY they hate their children - which in the vast majority of cases is because they hated their own parents.

Talking doesn't accomplish that if the intent is to find a scapegoat.

I'm not aware of any reason to think they do any good.

Exactly. The last thing in a sick person needs is the company of sick people.

 

How do you expect them to do this unless they get therapy and talk about it?

 

You think people aren't capable of realizing such things all by themselves?

 

It's more difficult and would probably take much longer but it is possible. When I took Psychology in college our professor showed us a graph of the recovery of those who do not take therapy for their problems and those who do. The progress of recovery was much higher and took much less time to do for the ones in therapy. Do you disagree that therapy would be good for people that hate their children?

 

Actually time has nothing to do with it. Realization would occur immediately if people did not insist on running away from it. If your mom was mean to you when you were 4 and you didn't realize you hated her for it until you were 40, that would only be because of your own stubbornness.

In the vast majority of cases, yes, because the vast majority of therapists are incompetent.

 

Maybe the woman who already has three kids at home then finds she's pregnant with triplets. I dunno about you, but I'd be panicking about that one.

Logically and legally factual.

 

No kids, no sex. Any questions?

 

true, don't the abortion promoters claim there is no lasting emotional or physical trauma connected to abortion? In fact, one claimed it was MUCH easier and safer than giving birth...why she made it seem no more trouble than having a tooth pulled..

 

well dehumanization is the first step, isn't it? you have to do that first before you can push through laws like this...there is an inherent revulsion to openly calling for murder (look at how they cry out against the death penalty) but if they can convince themselves that they aren't really killing a human being, then they can justify it to themselves...

after all, an embryo can't look them in the eye...a zygote can't cry or ask for mercy...so it must not be human, right?? it's the ultimate 'zenophobia'....it doesn't look like me so it can't be like me...

 

they act like babies are a virus they pick up from toilet seats...

not getting pregnant is NOT that hard, don't have sex! OR get sterilized...no muss no fuss...

 

"Not having sex" is NOT that easy for some people. While getting sterilized drastically reduces the chances of getting pregnant, it doesn't eliminate it.

 

Refraining from stealing is "not easy for some people", committing violence is "not easy for some people". Who ever said it was about making everything easy for all people?

 

The answer was to the post that said it wasn't hard to NOT have sex. Try to keep up.

 

A Female that is not a breeder is useless.....Only good for one thing prostitution. FACT​

 

Is that relevant? I think not!

 

Usually when people face their inadequacies they tend to dismiss the situation. Is that why you like sexual repression and would force abstinence on people?

 

another emotional hysterical peice of work from you.

I am in favor of personal responsibility, probably the main reason I am not a lefty loon.

 

so you are saying that if a woman has her ovaries removed, she can still get pregnant?

you would say ANYTHING to try to make your argument, no matter how ridiculous or off the wall it is...proof to me that your argument is weak weak weak.

 

Having ovaries removed is not done for birth control purposes. It is drastic surgery that is certainly not done on a young woman without medical need for it.