Blog Reports Babies Born Alive in Toilets at Abortion Mill, Left to Die

The truth is horrific and barbaric when it comes to abortions.

 

If you so much enjoy stories of women dying, you should check out those of women who died in childbirth. There are an abundance of them and you can find them in mainstream publications.

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/beauty/health-wellness-articles/wife-died-after-childbirth-0909

Sadly, the case of Galit Schiller is all too familiar in the United States, where, in spite of access to the best medical care in the world, the rate of maternal death related to pregnancy or birth almost doubled between 1990 and 2005.

The cause of death varies from woman to woman. Some result from infection, some hypertension, some septic shock, and some amniotic-fluid embolism, a complication in which amniotic fluid or other matter re-enters the mother's bloodstream, triggering a reaction that can result in cardiorespiratory arrest and hemorrhagingRead more: Death in Childbirth - My Wife Died After Giving Birth - Harper's BAZAAR

 

Well you abortion promoters would rather them be snuffed out before they are born. You have no room to criticize!!!

 

If you think that, why don't you support legislation proven to reduce the number of abortions? The destruction of Planned Parenthood clinics only leads desperate women to unsafe back alley abortions.

 

Abortion is a horrible thing - and unlike proabortionists - I think people should be aware of what exactly occurs during an abortion - and how it impacts the woman who undergoes this morbid procedure.

If you want to solve a problem, you need to understand EXACTLY what the problem is. Proabortionists DON'T want people to understand the horror that is abortion...that's why they lie about basic biological & medical facts to hide what really is happening.

 

Well we all know that abortion frequency skyrocketed after it was made legal, so I AM supporting such legislation. Legislation to outlaw it!!!

Why should I support providing a killer a legal way to commit homicide that ensures the killer isn't hurt too much during commission of the homicide?

 

If you think that, why don't you support legislation proven to reduce the number of abortions? The destruction of Planned Parenthood clinics only leads desperate women to unsafe back alley abortions.

 

And yet, Ireland which outlaws abortion, has the lowest maternal mortality rate of all countries.

 

Irish women have access to the best medical care post-partum AND easy access to tourist abortions.

 

I do - and I also DON'T want my tax $ given to the largest abortion provider in the US, just like many other taxpayers who are in favor of cutting off the funds to PP.

 

So? Why does the US have a higher maternal mortality rate? Could it be the number of abortions performed in the US? We know that 10% of all abortions have complications, such as infection, excessive bleeding, embolism, ripping or perforation of the uterus, anesthesia complications, convulsions, hemorrhage, cervical injury, and endotoxic shock. There certainly is plenty of evidence of this, as provided in prior posts.

Grimes and Cates, “Abortion: Methods and Complications”, Human Reproduction, 2nd ed., 796-813.

Could it be that prior induced abortion is a contributing factor in Maternal Mortality?

We know that about 47% of those undergoing an abortion in the US have had a prior abortion. And we know that an induced abortion is a violent, unnatural procedure that has been proven to have negative physical, emotional, and pyschological impact on those who undergo this procedure.

It is only logical that if you ban abortion, you will lower maternal mortality rates, and the facts clearly back this up.

 

You support providing low cost contraception and birth control information as Planned Parenthood does?

Then vengeance is more important to you than reducing the number of abortions.

 

Then why are you focusing exclusively on the extreme examples of malpractice and death? The vast majority of legal abortions are absolutely nothing like this. That's not to say there aren't problems and issues with routine abortions but nothing in this thread has anything to do with that.

My concern with the push to impose complete (or almost compete) legal bans on abortion is that it could lead to more practices like the one described in the OP with less opportunity for it to be identified and stopped.

Preventing the terrible practices and banning abortion are not necessarily the same thing.

 

The US does not provide the best pre-natal care, delivery care, or post-natal care. Many women do not receive ANY pre-natal care.

If it is logical, then why is it that the highest maternal mortality rates exist where abortion is illegal? The facts show that decriminalizing abortion lowers maternal death rates.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/97may/abortion.htm

LEGALIZING abortion was a public-health triumph that for pregnant women ranked with the advent of antisepsis and antibiotics. In 1971, the year after decriminalization, the maternal-mortality rate in New York State dropped 45 percent.

 

EVERY abortion kills an unborn baby...usually by dismemberment and without anesthesia. Most proabortionists would be up in arms if that was how they killed dogs and cats at the pounds; there is more consideration for the animals then for our own unborn children.

 

I have never heard of anyone being "up in arms" for the termination of pregnancy of dogs and cats.

 

FALSE.

World Economic Forum (WEF) shows that countries with restrictive abortion laws are often the leaders in reducing maternal mortality, and those with permissive laws often lag.

According to the report, the pro-life nation of Ireland has topped the global rankings once again with the best maternal health performance.

Ireland ranks first in the survey with 1 death for every 100,000 live births. In recent years Poland has tightened its abortion law and ranks number 27 on the list with 8 deaths per 100,000. In the United States where there are virtually no restrictions on abortion, the maternal mortality ratio is 17 out of 100,000 live births.

Other regions of the world show similar trends. The African nation with the lowest maternal mortality rate is Mauritius, a country with some of the continent's most protective laws for the unborn.

On the other end of the spectrum is Ethiopia, which has decriminalized abortion in recent years in response to global abortion lobby pressure. Ethiopia's maternal death rate is 48 times higher than in Mauritius. South Africa has the continent's most liberal abortion laws and also a high maternal mortality ratio of 400 deaths per 100,000.

Chile, with constitutional protection for the unborn, outranks all other South American countries as the safest place for women to bear children. The country with the highest maternal mortality is Guyana, with a rate 30 times higher than in Chile.

Guyana has allowed abortion without almost any restriction since in 1995. Ironically, one of two main justifications used for liberalizing Guyana’s law was to enhance the "attainment of safe motherhood" by eliminating deaths and complications associated with unsafe abortion.

Similarly in Asia, Nepal, where there is no restriction on the procedure, has one of the world's highest maternal mortality rates. The lowest in the region is Sri Lanka, with a rate fourteen times lower than that of Nepal. According to the pro-abortion public interest law firm Center for Reproductive Rights, Sri Lanka has among the most restrictive abortion laws in the world.

Even the UN has to admit the truth.

 

Because "abstinence only education" was forced on us?

https://members.weforum.org/pdf/Global_Competitiveness_Reports/Reports/gender_gap.pdf

 

Usually? Are you suggesting that the majority of abortions are performed in this manner?

If you like, but you're not in discussion with a "proabortionist" and none of that either answers my question about the focus of your posts or addresses my concern about the potential consequences of banning abortion.

 

Dogs and cats being euthenized DO feel pain, embyoes don't.

 

Unsafe abortion accounts for 13% of maternal mortalities. It seems obvious and simple how 13% of maternal deaths could be prevented. Most of the other deaths could be eliminated by providing improved access to medical care including contraception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_death

As stated by the WHO in its 2005 World Health Report "Make Every Mother and Child Count", they are: severe bleeding/hemorrhage (25%), infections (13%), unsafe abortions (13%), eclampsia (12%), obstructed labour (8%), other direct causes (8%), and indirect causes (20%). Indirect causes such as malaria, anaemia,[6] HIV/AIDS and cardiovascular disease, complicate pregnancy or are aggravated by it.

 

The problem with this is that you have not shown the correlation between the two, but you have, if I recall correctly opposed universal health care, which of course Ireland has. What do you think reduced maternal mortality? Is it deprivation of freedom, driven by religious dogma or good medical care?
The other problem is, sadly again dishonesty that you are so fond of using. You well know that the abortion rates for Ireland are not accurate or verifiable, yet in typical deceitful way you are posting it again.

 

What dishonest tripe. Only an idiot would use Ethiopia, Guyana, and Nepal as examples of healthcare in comparisons with the civilized world.

 

This is just sick. This is on par with that piece of trash that threw his 7 week old son across the room in another thread the other day. There is no way to support something like this without just being pure evil. Plain and simple.

 

Support what, babies born alive in toilets and left to drown? There is no evidence it even happened.