Carney: Obama's New Jobs Plan Would Put Unemployment Below 9%

Yes if the federal government can hire enough new regulators to force the private sector to hire more union workers then employment may dip below 9% for a week to ten days before the effected companies go under.

 

It's her report and her table.

She said it.

 

Where is the promise? Where was it "said" in the report that unemployment would not go over 8%?

The report contains predictions and forecasts, based on current forecasts of the economy that unemployment would top out at 8.8%, that with the stimulus, unemployment would top out at about 8%, noting that they are estimates based on forecasts of the economy subject to wide margins of error.

 

Apparently nothing Obama or his spokesmen say is meant to be taken seriously.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Feel free to quote the text with the promise unemployment would not go above 8%.

The word "promise" doesn't even appear in the whole (*)(*)(*)(*) report.

 

Yes it did. Obama suggest that without the stimulus unemployment would go above double digits. I don't know why you enjoy giving the kids the run around.

 

I'm just going by what Carney said yesterday (on the one hand), and what "the White House" said yesterday (on the other hand). I don't know whether it's just staggering confusion, monumental stupidity, or simply an inability to keep all the elements of Obama's fiction in order, but something is very, very wrong.

One bunch says Obama is going to lower unemployment (finally, after 2 1/2 years), and the other bunch says that Obama won't be able to lower unemployment at all, right through next year's election. Which is it?! It can't be both....

I may not like Obama, his politics, his disregard for the Constitution, or his economic ineptness, but this is so laughable that I almost feel sorry for the guy. If I were Obama I'd be so f-ing mad right now that I'd go through the ranks of the idiots that are supposed to be working for me and CLEAN HOUSE! No President, not even Obama, deserves to have this bunch of "Keystone Cops" working for him. It makes him look even worse than he is, and that is quite bad enough all on its own....

 

so you are claiming Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser were not part of Barack Obama's administration ?

so you are saying she just happened to work for Barack Obama , but was not part of his administration http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/christina-romer-top-obama_n_672590.html

as was Bernstein http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/27/news/la-pn-jared-bernstein-20110527

yeah right, pass me another sack of the IT WAS NOT BARACK OBAMA's FAULT bull manure, I need some compost for my garden

 

I've already shown you the chart.

And it's not going to do any good for you to stonewall like Obama withholding his college transcripts.

The people know what they were told and it can't be covered up now.

 

I see the the parrot is not dead it is only sleeping defense is running strong with the libs on this thread

 

In Fairness to actual quotes there may not be an actual Obama
quote of him stating - Unemployment will not exceed 8 % -.
But then the sites also give the Unemployment rate in January
of 2009 as 7.2% and 7.6% and when taking office 7.8%.
George Will gave Jake Tapper an interview and said of Obama saying
- we would have unemployment at 8% and no higher -.
" and it went Higher " according to George Will.
Again,this may be an Alinsky that has been used often by Obama when
caught saying something then outright denying,after sites were Purged
of any faux pas.yes,there was a huge movement to Purge the net of
any statements and articles written about Obama as a Senator and
further back as a State Senator.
Don't forget Both Obama and Rahm Emanuel actively fundraised
to get Rod Blagojevich elected as Governor.Yet that fact was effectively
purged from news clippings and the Net.

 

And your entire argument hinges on whether the word "promise" was used as opposed to prediction or forecast?

 

Are you still trying to make the distinction without merit between promise and predict and forecast?

 

Why would she regret saying something she did not say?

 

This whole thread, once again, shows the charade going on with wing right propaganda media and Republican politicians to try to characterize what was an economic prediction, complete with numerous caveats about the inherent inaccuracy of such projections and estimates, into a "promise" or an affirmative statement by Obama and his administration. That way, they can characterize the fact that the recession was worse than forecast into a broken promise by Obama.

The effectiveness of such propaganda is reflected once again, in this thread, where the acolytes desperately try to show there was such a promise, when not one person can show a single quote by Obama or anyone in his administration ever saying the word promise, or even ever saying anything about 8% at any time before the stimulus was passed.

But you don't have to take my word for it.

Tim Pawlenty: “Barack Obama promised that spending 800 billion dollars on a pork-filled stimulus bill would keep unemployment under 8 percent.” False

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ctment-of-obama/2011/05/25/AGAXoXBH_blog.html

George Allen The stimulus bill "promised to keep unemployment under 8%." Mostly False.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...-allen-says-barack-obama-promised-stimulus-w/

Allen, a former governor and U.S. senator, is not the only Republican peddling the claim ... conservative pundit George Will have made similar statements. So did Virginia’s Eric Cantor, now House Majority Leader, back in July 2009. Mostly false.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...-allen-says-barack-obama-promised-stimulus-w/

George Will: Obama said stimulus would cap unemployment at 8 percent
Mostly False

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...bama-said-stimulus-would-cap-unemployment-8-/


Michelle Bachmann: "The White House promised us that all the spending would keep unemployment under 8 percent." Mostly False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...chele-bachmann-says-white-house-promised-sti/

The claim that the White House "promised" the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8 percent has been a popular attack line, cited repeatedly by Fox's Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and other conservative pundits.
Mostly False

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...chele-bachmann-says-white-house-promised-sti/

Eric Cantor: "We were promised. The president said we would keep unemployment under 8.5 percent (if the stimulus passed)." Mostly False

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...r-and-other-republicans-say-obama-promised-s/

House Republican Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, Reps. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., as well as conservative talk show host Sean Hannity, to name a few. They all called it a "promise." Mostly False

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...r-and-other-republicans-say-obama-promised-s/

 

You're still trying to make the claim there is no distinction between a broken promise and an erroneous projection?

 

George Will lied, or was mislead by conservative propaganda as well. See Politifact check above.

 

Because she underestimated the degree to which the conservative propaganda media would mischaracterize and distort the estimates and projections in her report.

 

Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
Are you still trying to make the distinction without merit between promise and predict and forecast?

Try again.

 

Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
Why would she regret saying something she did not say?

So you concede she said it..............thank you.

 

Why did you ignore my post?

 

Politifact makes the same specious argument you do.

"But what we saw from the administration in January 2009 was a projection, not a promise."

A distinction without merit.

 

That was not an idle "projection" by a drunken economics advisor over beers at the pub.

Romer published the 8% number as part of the campaign to sell an $800 billion stimulus package to a skeptical public.

 

next time we think about spending 800 billion we might consider the need to consult the drunken economics adviser, I doubt he or she could not do worse than Barrack Obama's chief adviser

 

You're still trying to make the claim there is no distinction between a broken promise and an erroneous projection?