2011 College Football Thread

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  1. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Actually I played football, and you didn't!! I saw your picture, you would have been murdered if you played football. I was an all-area football player, and I played football from 2nd grade until senior year of high school. I was recruited to play in college at some D-2 schools, but chose to go for academics over football. I love when people with no notion of what they are talking about, try to act condescending!!
     
  2. kronikcope

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    Yes, the field goal kicking was bad. As far as turnovers go, I don't think you understand the window difference a QB has when playing an elite defense. The window of opportunity between a receiver and QB can be 80% less than than usual when a good DB is on a WR. Linemen get more pressure, forcing bad throws and get more tips. LBs are faster and play better zone. All of these things factor into turnovers.

    As far as penalties go, that was what, 1 more than the usual college football game? The average is 12 so you tell me.
     
  3. kronikcope

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    Murdered how? I was 165 lbs starting CB for a team that made it to the state semis my junior year and was all league my junior and senior year, while going to state 4 years in wrestling and placing twice. How a tubby rolly polly with no muscle tone is going to tell me he was offered a spot on a team who duties didn't include wearing a skirt and cheering from the sidelines is beyond me.
     
  4. SpotsCat

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    Absolutely!

    It's like baseball - do you want a high-scoring game, like the 16 - 7 Cardinals victory in Game #3, or do you want a 1 - 0 like when the Cardinals beat the Phillies to win Game #5 of the NLDS?

    The novice viewer usually wants to see the slugfest - home run after home run. The true sports afficionado wants to see the 1 - 0 game - the close game where the slightest mistake can tip the game in favor of the opponent.

    The LSU/'Bama game was as exciting as Game #6 of the Series - hard-fought, close, on the edge of your seat excitement.

    As an Ole' Miss fan (though not for much longer! :) ) my only regret is that they couldn't find a way for both of them to lose! :D
     
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    In fairness to Kronik, as I recall he was a wrestler in h.s. And in my experience wrestlers are pound for pound the best athletes in all of high school athletics. It's the only sport that trying to make weight is where you see the discipline they have. I was into baseball and like
    Al Bundy peaked in high school; but props to wrestlers for pure athleticism. That takes nothing away from other sports it's just in my humble opinion wrestlers are the most disciplined pound for pound.
     
  6. kronikcope

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    Bless your sweet, humble heart Herk...and you're correct, at least in my experiences, that wrestling was the toughest sport I ever competed in. I thought a few years about playing baseball after wrestling season, but I figured I would have sucked - never played it growing up.

    I'm wondering how far Alabama is going to drop in the polls.
     
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    Baseball is primarily a skill sport, you can eat a plate of lasagna before a game and not have it be detrimental to your game. Wrestlers eat breathe and sleep their sport.

    Bama should drop to 4 or 5, still a great team. I saw Air Force rallied against Army, Go Blue!
     
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    Alabama is #3.

    'Bama plays Mississippi State this Saturday at Starkville. 'Bama is a 17 point favorite.

    I think I'd take those odds!
     
  9. arjay

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    Do you disagree with my assessment that Alabama is history? Well, you are right. It's just my opinion that they should be done for, but with the historical bias for SEC teams, they still might get another chance to bore us with an LSU matchup - but gosh, I hope not. I agree with you that Stanford is beatable, maybe even this week against Oregon & I expect OSU to lose against Oklahoma. So that will/may leave Boise St.. I think their fate is tied to how well Georgia performs. If UGA makes the SEC title game, with only the 2 losses, and plays a real close game vs. LSU, it increases their chance of getting in their. I still believe Alabama can lose another game this season, which would eliminate them for sure. We/I can only hope.
     
  10. frodly

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    Yep, I was rolly polly!! I was 5'10 205 pounds, benching 350 pounds, and running a 4.9 40 as a senior in high school. I was recruited to play D-2, but if I was motivated I could have walked on at division 1 schools. I just wasn't.
     
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    They are the fittest high school athletes, with the possible exception of long distance runners. However, they do NOT tend to be great athletes!! In fact, the people I know who were good wrestlers were actually uncoordinated and otherwise poor athletes!!
     
  12. kronikcope

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    What a joke.

    Wrestlers, at the top levels of the sport, are the best athletes in the HS/college levels. The strength, speed, cardio, aggression, mental and physical toughness you have to possess is on a different level than any other sport, period. There's a reason top level wrestler can come right out of college after winning a National Title and enter right in to the top tier of mixed martial arts, which most consider the most physically demanding sport on the planet.
     
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    We had these debate before a while back and I believe it was statistically shown
    that wrestlers sustain the most injuries of any high school sport.

    Now in terms of SKILL, I would argue that hitting a major league fastball that is thrown
    at 90 plus miles per hour from a distance of 60 feet 6 inches, is the toughest thing to do in all of sports...however that's skill not athleticism necessarily. Babe Ruth used to eat hot dogs
    and smoke a cigar before a game but he could hit a fastball...

    In terms of ATHLETICISM, wrestling is among the top if not the top sports to compete in.

    Wrestlers train by running, lifting weights and eating a very stringent diet to maintain their weight class...in addition to needing
    the skills necessary for a successful pin or avoiding a pin.
     
  14. sec

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    well there you go

    comparing top rate NFL teams to top rate college teams

    that's all you can do because there is no college team with which to compare LSU and Bama except each other
     
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    Girls like to see a lot of touchdowns and many points scored.

    Men like to see real battles.
     
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    that game was a battle

    Yes, both teams prepare before every game but they were pumped up for this game. LSU and BAMA know that if they play an OU, OSU or Stanford that the outcome will be a victory. They can afford a mistake or two against those teams and be victorious.

    Against each other, their defenses had to be near perfect and they knew it.
     
  17. arjay

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    Do "men" like to see the QB throw into double coverage & right to defenders for interceptions, or generally lackluster QB play? Or FG execution so bad that four(four?) FG's were missed?
    Myself and many others(besides the SEC Cheerleading Squad) have stated that LSU & Alabama are the two best teams in the country, but that has everything to do with the defense that these two teams play & nothing to do with their very average offenses. I would venture to say that Oklahoma St., Oklahoma, Stanford, Oregon, Boise St. and even Clemson & Georgia Tech, are better offensively than LSU & Alabama, but not by a lot. I don't think that is at all going out on a limb.
    I don't believe either team is unbeatable, which is obvious, 'cause there is no such thing.
    Now, having said all that, I would much rather watch that LSU/'Bama game than the OSU/ KSU 52-45 game that was on the other channel. I sure hope OSU gets beat, 'cause LSU would kill them.
     
  18. kronikcope

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    I would rather see 100 interceptions and 50 missed FGs in a game than see 2 minutes of Dancing With The Stars.

    Man card revoked!
     
  19. arjay

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    Being secure in my manhood, I could live with that. I'm also a fan of "So You Think You Can Dance". Dancing is athletics. Ballroom dancing used to be an Olympic sport. If I lost my man card, so has Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Hines Ward, Jason Taylor, Kurt Warner, Warren Sapp(tell him he's lost his man card!), Chris Jerico, Ty Murray, Floyd Mayweather, & Evander Holyfield.
    I'll take it in the spirit that your kidding around, but it would be nice if you can dispute/discuss my points.
     
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    You do realize they get payed to go on that show, while you're watching it for free, right? Bit of a difference.

    It's literally like watching Ice Skating, the gayest sport ever, with far less athletic ability and talent on display while homosexual commentary ties it all together. I'd rather take a bullet in the gut than watch a season of that. And in terms of athletics - if old fossils like Buzz Aldrin and fat unathletic Chaz Bono can do it, I'm going to rate it, on a scale of 1 to 10, at a .0001...pending you're not a paraplegic, you can be a successful dancer.
     
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    I'm positive the the list of athletes I gave didn't do it for the money. Look, DWTS & SYTYCD are TV shows, entertainment. It's not everybody's cup of tea. I respect the heck out of NASCAR, but I'd rather take a gut shot then sit 3 hrs. in front of the TV & watch it. To be kind, I think you underestimate the difficulty of dance. I know for sure that I could not do it, never mind do it well. I'm still waiting for the response to my football points.
     
  22. kronikcope

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    What are the football points you wanted me to address?

    Yes, there are a few teams I would say that run a better offense than LSU or Alabama, but it's not apples and oranges in terms of difference.

    BTW, I thought you ran marathons? If Chaz Bono or Buzz Aldrin do anything remotely athletic, you should be able to do it about 100 times as good.
     
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    Very good defense makes good offense look bad. Neither LSU or Bama had bad offense they just both had excellent defense.

    Saban rolled the dice on the field goal attempts and lost.

    The only missed field goal that bothered me was the short attempt that was blocked...that should not have happened.

    The other attempts were 50-50 at best.
     
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    13 seasons of DWTS, and the only things that were ever remotely interesting were watching Kelly Monaco shake her tushy on season one, and Stacy Keibler shake her keister on season two.

    If there ever was a reason NOT to watch DWTS, it can be summed up in four words - Nancy Grace nip slip. :puke:
     
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    Yea, I run marathons, but I have no rythym. Louie Vito is an Olympic snowboarder & Clyde Drexler a Hall of Fame basketball player, but neither could dance very well either. In fact, C.D. was one of the worst contestants I can remember seeing on the show.
    Buzz Aldrin was just too old, but believe it or not, Chaz Bono wasn't as bad as you would think, for a "guy" his size.
     

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