Evolution is a joke Pt. VIII

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  1. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    You are correct – colonies don’t replicate as a whole and neither does the yeast colony in rs199 link. You didn’t read any of my articles did you. Where does it state that this multicellular lifeform replicated as a whole… In fact, I do believe, as you should and is stated in the article from “National Center of Biotechnology” is that yeast CANNOT and I will stress this since you are completely wrong on this… CANNOT replicate multiple cells. Also, colonies, as in my link do act peculiar in ways that the cells work together – this is pretty basic knowledge… I mean ridiculously basic…

    How can you NOT know this off the top of your head Burz?!?! Again, I am under the impression that you are no biologist, but more of a Super Google Samurai… If you think that yeast can clump up then have multicellular replication – please, by all means take over for rs199 (since they have no clue) and explain how that happens… But, first, why don’t you FIRST find out how the yeast replicated BEFORE it went into the clump, then from there, tell us the process of how it created- produced- replicated multicellular life.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting that the headline is a lie? That Wired would spin ridiculous stories in their headlines?


    NO WAY!!


    Why on Earth would they have anything within any of their articles be untrue?
     
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    You clearly did not read the article....You simply just looked at the headline and assumed Wired claimed there are 'ALIENS ON METEORITES'.

    Yet another:

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    If credibility were ice and you were an ice skater, you would be at the bottom of the ocean by now.
     
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    Once again, no where in the article is there any mention of a 'yeast colony'

    Red herring.
     
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    I mean I am just beside myself on this... I really am... How - I mean HOW IN THE FLIP can you say that the yeast is multicellular outside of that absolutely retarded article!

    What is the main difference between multicellular and colony of bacteria? And what you described is not it....
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're "refusing to even be a little nice" because you linked to something that you don't understand and you now have no idea how to spin it to fit into your argument. So now you're getting defensive because you have, once again, been shown to have no idea what you're talking about. How does replicating DNA for analysis have anything to do with your argument? You have yet to explain that.
     
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    This is from your parallel article: "When the clusters reached a critical size, some cells died off in a process known as apoptosis to allow offspring to separate. The offspring reproduced only after they attained the size of their parents."

    That's reproducing as a whole. If it isn't, then you need to explain how individual bacteria, which do the exact same thing (grow to a certain size, split, and grow to reproductive size again), aren't reproducing as a whole. And you didn't address the cell death necessary to split. Colonies don't do that. Only multicellular organisms do that. So how are these colonies, again?

    The gist is explained in the articles, both rstones' and your own. You just don't understand or won't let observable evidence shake your faith. I've lost count of how many examples of evolution have been witnessed that you're ignoring, but add this one to the pile.
     
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    So here is an example of the type of language you use in your posts that prompted the question about whether English is your first language or not. "What is the main difference between multicellular and a colony of bacteria?" You just asked me what the difference is between an adjective and a noun. That's like asking what the difference is between flammable and water. I have an idea of what you're asking, but can you rephrase the question to be more understandable?
     
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    Does the title say “Aliens on Meteorites”? Yes it does… Are there aliens on meteorites? No there isn’t… You will never see the NCIS title be something that is not true. Your site “wired” is retarded and the part of speaking to dolphins so we can speak to aliens was also a peach!

    Now are you going to answer the questions I asked you are post cartoon pictures all day?
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Let's try this again...



    So you don’t have to look back for the site, here you go: http://depts.washington.edu/younglab/yeastprotocols(htm)/colPCR.htm

    See, I am REALLY starting to think you are just a Super Google Samurai as none I have seen before. This should be easy for you – you don’t even have to go off of memory because all you have to do is READ!!!!
     
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    THANK YOU LOPEY!!!



    “A cluster alone isn’t multicellular,” Ratcliff said. “But when cells in a cluster cooperate, make sacrifices for the common good, and adapt to change,“A cluster alone isn’t multicellular,” Ratcliff said. “But when cells in a cluster cooperate, make sacrifices for the common good, and adapt to change, that’s an evolutionary transition to multicellularity

    Ooops... Did the guy who just conducted the experiment just say that the clump of yeast ISN’T multicellular? I believe he did… What he did say though though is when yeast is in a colony (like most single cell life in colonies – because that’s what they do) make sacrifices for each other can be looked as a step of how colonies can become multicellular…

    Exactly! You always come to my rescue!! THANK YOU AGAIN!!!
     
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    This topic is really ambiguous.

    Obviously there are some things about evolution that have been proven and some things that have not.


    Do species evolve ? Of course they do
    Did humans come from apes .. perhaps but there are some missing links and many unresolved issues along the chain and of issues much prior to apes.

    Early neanderthals could have been Genetically mutated by aliens for all we know.

    What is clear is that Creationist ideas of how Humans got here have been completely debunked by hard science.
     
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    errrr what? I quit...
     
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    Go back and read ALL my links please. Since you won't go back after saying ridiculous accusations that were not true, I am not going to do that for you either.

    Go back and read. It’s all there in links.

    Just to show you how retarded you jumping on board of this sinking ship, if the yeast became a multicellular organism (that singular mind you)… How could the offspring reproduced only after they attained the size of their parents?
     
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    BEST POST IN THIS WHOLE THREAD!!!


    Fabulous post!!!


    REPPED!
     
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    A question to anyone who wants to answer this.

    Can a unicellular organisms replicate multicellular life? Because I am arguing with Burz and rs199 who actually think this is flipping possible after all the links I have supplied (that they obviously haven't read)...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Also, for anyone...

    Can you tell the ones who are struggling with very simple biology terms what the definition of "colony" is?..
     
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    Human Chromosome 2 is proof we evoloved from Apes.
     
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    Nothing in the theory of evolution states that organisms will continue to evolve for no reason if they're already suitably adapted to their environment.

    The only gigantic fail ITT is your willful ignorance of what you think you're arguing against.
     
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    Just to clarify this, humans and modern apes evolved from a common ancestor.

    There's nothing in the theory that says modern apes will continue to evolve into modern humans.

    Or butterflies or snakes for that matter, despite the shrieks and wails from DBS.
     
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    WHAT?!?!

    No.. don't go! Post another link!!! Why don't you post something on how unicellular colonies act!! Then post something on how this new lifeform of yeast is so different from a unicellular colony like the snotties I linked!! Use those Google Ninja skills lopey!!!

    Google up some unicellular colonies and show us how they differ from this yeast! I mean – that last one was a heart breaker for the opposing side as the person running the experiment stated “in quotes” mind you, that it wasn’t multicellular. But, I had already posted that earlier, but it’s just SWEETER when someone else posts it… :) Thank you! Because as you can see – they don’t read the stuff I post.

    You always do me right lopey!!
     
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    Yes, since you're either straw-manning the theory of evolution or still have yet to understand very basic biology.

    I'd suggest starting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
     
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    You do know that what you just posted... That right there above... Is absolutely - 100% incorrect right?



    No, not my willful ignorance, it's more on the lines of you and the other Darwinist blind faith....
     
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    You already know this isn't correct... There is no evidence of this within nature and I have provided everything for you.

    The Faith in this one is strong - yes!!!
     
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