Ok. GOP what is your solution to the healthcare crisis in the US? Do nothing?

Cut taxes for the rich, stop abortion, and more tax cuts for the rich, cut the throat of the poor, and more tax breaks for the rich....THAT'S THEIR PLAN. (hasn't changed in at least 30 years).

 

What would you Do to convince GM and Apple to build manufacturing plants in the US instead of in other countries?

Without the rich there are no jobs.

 

We don't need the corporate controlled rich. They're poison to society.

Without workers to exploit, there are no rich.

 

You don't understand very much of anything with your liberal education. The rich didn't get rich exploiting workers, they got rich exploiting consumers. Without customers they can't succeed and well they have plenty of customers. And if they can't make it at a cheap enough price here they will make it elsewhere and still have their customers.

 

Well, it's tough for workers to compete with 7 cents an hour labor overseas, isn't it? I understand perfectly what today's corporate society is all about...quick cash, quick profit, and corruption. Your fantasy description sounds good in theory....too bad it isn't that way anymore. It's a great story though.

 

So now we can get into serious solutions.
Apple has like 99 Billion dollars in overseas accounts that they can't bring to the US because if they did they would be taxed 30% on it. If we lowered taxes "on the rich" and agreed to only tax them 10% they might bring that money back into our country and invest it in building their business bigger or in other new business ventures thus creating jobs. So now you understand why the solution is lowering taxes on the rich?


Meanwhile how about creating a tariff for all imports from countries that don't have our level of minimum wages/lifestyle. That will even the playing field. And should they reciprocate that'll be ok because we import more from them than we export to them so it wouldn't hurt as much as help us in the long run. How do we do that, elect Romney as President instead of Obuma. Because only someone who knows business would implement a plan like that or one that may actually be better.

So now that were talking reasonably, instead of out our asses, think you can vote Republican?

 

well then lets lower the working class tax down to 10% too, lol, we promise we will spend more.... never work

your basically saying those that have more then they need in one lifetime yet hide money overseas to avoid taxes, will somehow be more honest, more patriotic if they don't get taxed anything

 

I have multiple approaches to solving the health care issue:

1) Like many conservatives on this forum, I also favor a system where private health insurance should be allowed to be sold across state lines. The problem in the health insurance industry is that it is composed of big and small captured markets that allow big corporations to defy the laws of supply and demand. Liberalizing the private health insurance market, and the pharmaceuticals market would create a system more conducive to supply and demand, and would lead to a decrease in prices in the long-run.

2) Elimination of superfluous patent laws for pharmaceuticals. I remember creating a Model United Nations crisis for the World Trade Organization at my school's conference. The scenario I created was one where two of the largest pharmaceutical companies that created antiretroviral drugs stalled production due to exorbitant amount of patent laws on an international level, not just the national level. This caused citizens in Africa, Russia, and China to protest over the shortage of the drugs.

Now, this scenario I created was an over dramatization, yet it signifies just how important a simplified system of patent laws is to commerce. Exorbitant regulations lead to extra costs, and if such costs do not manifest into a negative externality, or a business does not take the blow, a business will impose extra costs into the price of their product. I can assure you that streamlining pharmaceutical patents would make access to medicine much easier, and prevent such a scenario from occurring.

3) Passage of a new free trade agreement with Canada, specifically one focusing on pharmaceuticals. If what Slyhunter says is true, a free trade agreement that avoids flowery language to prevent crony capitalism but provides gains of trade for both nations would be of great aid to improving health care in this nation.

4) Reform of the Affordable Care Act by eliminating the individual mandate, the institution of a public option, and the elimination of superfluous regulations and bureaucracies. I can assure you that the President would like such a universal health care system because it is single payer, and it fulfills his original goal of having a public option.

5) Provide as an alternative to the public option within the health care law through expansion of health savings accounts that are fully tax refundable and can be utilized for only catastrophic coverage, and only made available to citizens who fall into such a pool through IPAB.

 

Apple isn't hiding money overseas. They made that money overseas and they paid taxes on that money they made overseas in those overseas countries that they made that money in. But our tax law is so screwed up that in order to bring it to America and spend that money here we tax them AGAIN for 30%. And that just isn't right. We are the only country that does double taxation on foreign made income like that. The least we should do is lower that tax rate to something more reasonable.

 

I know people in NY who go to Canada to get their drugs because it's cheaper. People in New Mexico go to Mexico to get their dental work done and drugs too for the same reason but they have a quality control issue in Mexico so I wouldn't go there. I trust Canada's version of the FDA to buy their drugs.

Don't believe me and my armatures way of explaining things let a pro explain it http://drugs.about.com/od/faqsaboutyourdrugs/f/Canada_cheap.htm

I've been told that the reason they are cheaper in Canada is because of Canada's health care laws which forces them to sell cheaper. They prop up the prices in America to pay for their patents and to recover the "slight loss" they take doing business in Canada.

These same Pharmaceuticals sell their drugs a lot cheaper in several other countries as well. Nothing changed except the language on the bottle, ie same medicines.

 

Here is what the federal government should do about health insurance.

Nothing.

Health insurance isn't sold across states and thus the federal government has no jurisdiction to regulate health insurance.

You should be asking what your state should be doing about health care.

Additionally, I'd personally like to see Medicare eliminated as that is another role that should be left to the states.

 

I believe you. No need to convince me. However, it would be good to follow Canada's example and begin liberalizing our patent laws as well. Patent laws, like all other regulations should not be incredibly complex, but simple and inexpensive to comply with, all the while eliminating negative externalities.

 

the only farce is that it is "free" market based.

 

Good ideas...that other countries already implement.

Pharmaceutical purchase and use is regulated in Australasia by government agencies set up to sift the wheat from the chaff and fund only the most cost-effective drugs. US Big Pharma hate this and actively try to destroy these agencies.

But both countries effectively have an individual mandate paid for by income tax. Private insurance companies and hospitals exist for those who want, and can afford, quicker but not better treatment. The same medical staff work in both systems. But public technological facilities tend to be much better.

 

Good point. Funny that you mention Big Pharma. The lobbying group called PhRMA, who was led by former Democratic politician Billy Tauzin, who by the way in a bipartisan effort got the expensive and unnecessary Medicare Part D impelmented worked with insurance companies to create a formula that would allow pharmaceutical costs to skyrocket under the Affordable Care Act.

 

Come on, really? 7 cents per hour? I would love to see where that happens.

 

Well, as I understand it, the "crisis" is that some people can't afford health insurance so when they get sick they go to the ER and still get treated but don't pay. That ends up costing people who can afford insurance to foot the bill, or so the argument goes. My solution is to transfer that burden to another group, young healthy people, that has historically had very little need for health insurance by forcing everyone to buy a policy on "the market". In that way, I am transferring the burden from the middle and upper classes to young people just getting a start in life. I'll do this while keeping all the other industry protecting measures on the books...

I think I'll call my plan...The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act...

 

I thought you wanted them to die conveniently?

http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/238118-us-needs-re-instate-draft.html

 

Boy-oh-boy. The point I made in that post went right over the point on your head.

Had you bothered to read that entire thread instead of just my one post in that thread, you would realize that I simply rearranged the absurd argument made by the OP and his like-minded fellows, that other people besides themselves, should be forced into fighting and/or dying.

They want young people to be forced into servitude when they themselves would not be subject to the same servitude. Then they assert that anyone who doesn't agree to those terms are "cowards" and "unpatriotic". However, if you'll notice, once the terms are changed so that they will be the ones drafted, suddenly that becomes an invalid argument. Funny how that works, no?

I shouldn't have to spell this out...but...I guess I do: I WASN'T ACTUALLY ADVOCATING THAT OLD PEOPLE BE FORCIBLY SENT OFF TO WAR.

Now, please explain to me how my opinion that a draft is akin to indentured servitude has ANY relation to healthcare insurance and vice versa.

 

Many Republicans have proposed simpler solutions to start off with, then see how it plays out, rather than implementing an unfounded overhaul of the system, whose costs are projected to soar out of control, and not one person really knows how it will play out, especially Democrats that have not read it, like Pelosi, and her self-confession.

 

Talking points noted.

How about telling us WHAT the details of their plans are?

 

Stuff has already been posted. You can look more up for yourself. Quite frankly, I don't care to entertain you anymore on this. All I know, is that Obamacare has to go.

 

There is no crisis other than millions of illegals that are abusing "our" system. You are more than welcome to go purchase insurance like "normal" people. The whole thing is fabricated, but it is falling apart now. So sorry, but you will have to spend "your" money, not mine!

 

You want the government involved in your health care, fine. Let them draw the line at catastrophic health care..set up clinics to take care of cuts and scrapes and colds. Pay/Go for the employed. They have SS numbers so those clinics will know whether or not their patients are employed.
I agree that some form of health provisions are necessary and some government controls would be required, whether at the state or federal level. But I don't agree that a completely federally controlled health care mechanism should be in place. The government has no problem regulating everything else from what we eat to how we light our homes...why can't they be satisfied to 'regulate' health insurance providers?

 

It was doomed from the beginning, designed to fail. Another two party scam distraction, just like the housing scam and the banking scam and the too big to fail scam, and the oil shortage scams, etc... etc....


They never had any intention of allowing it to go into play. Then when it is taken out both sides will have something else to argue about. The democrats are already blaming republicans and it hasn't even been officially declared unconstitutional yet.


While the country has been waiting for it to take effect medical costs have risen anywhere from 30% to 45%, and in the time it takes to make another asinine attempt at fixing (drawing it out as long as possible) cost will rise another 45% - 60% or more than it is today. As long as they can pretend to be doing something, the insanity will continue.

Nobody in the two party scam has an answer to anything, except fleecing the public for all it is worth. It's the only thing they are good at. Tried and true for decades now.