Ok. GOP what is your solution to the healthcare crisis in the US? Do nothing?

I still think the govt could get a FAR better result with our money by just plopping the entire issue of US healthcare into the lap of the Taiwanese.

With the money we spend right now they would provide enormously better healthcare to the citizens of the US than our current greed laced, market driven joke of a healthcare system does.

They'd don't mind working for a living. They'd have our doctors begging for a janitors job. And honestly that's about all our doctors and insurance CEO's are worth.

Give it to Taiwan. They'll have US healthcare a non issue inside of a years time. And our economy will be booming because of it, and our people will be healthier as well.

 

So far the GOP is MIA. Or if the replies ARE from their side, their brains are MIA.

 

Then why should people invest in new medical procedures and new drugs at all if profits are limited?

why not invest in alternative energy as the Obama Admin. insists that is where the future is.

People seem to have this illusion that there are literally hundreds of billions just waiting out there to be invested for the "good of humanity".

 

There never was a crisis. 'Crisis' is a word libs all the time in order to push forward their socialist policies, and to give their politicians the much needed power they would never have gotten in the private sector.

 

Well, Obamacare will be just that: weak healthcare for all.

 

The problem is, the more and more freeloaders that sign on, the more and more it will cost others.

 

...and we know how well the government runs things, and keeps costs in check.

 

As compared to weak healthcare for SOME which is what we have right now. VERY weak.

BTW, what does the GOP propose?

 

Talking points noted. What does the GOP propose? Spewing talking points?

 

Can you say partisan? Listen up. We have been speaking, but you are blinded by Obamacare.

 

There is no crisis. it is made up. There are numerous health insurance companies from which to chose. Pick one and pay for it.

 

Talking points noted. What does the GOP propose?

 

I'm listening. I just want to know what the GOP proposes. Is it to spew talking points about how they hate Obamacare?

 

First, repeal the overly-burdensome, overly-costly Obamacare.

http://www.gop.gov/indepth/pledge/healthcare

 

More talking points.

What does the GOP propose?

 

Les regulation of course! Because the beloved private sector that can never do any wrong can regulate themselves!

Thats the GOP answer.

 

I do not represent the GOP, but I think the (hijacked) GOVERNMENT is the one creating all the crisis

 

No doubt. They think healthcare can be run like a normal market where goods are sold. The only problem with that silly-assed notion is no-one knows when they'll need health services.

I'm betting the GOP has NO proposal to tackle the enormous crisis in the healthcare industry. That being cost per person compared to GDP. Highest cost in the world with the least benefit of any system in the world.

Man up GOPukes, what do you propose?

 

Allow insurance companies to sell their policies across state borders. That will bring up more competition and choices for the public. Allow the citizens to buy drugs mail order from Canada. They sell the drugs cheaper in Canada than they do in the US, the very same drugs they sell here.

De-regulate don't make me a male have to carry pregnancy coverage when I can't get pregnant. And stuff like that.

 

Thank you for the reply. Is this a part of the GOP proposal? I like parts of it.

 

First, we would need face the fact that medicine is a busines.

Next we would see that the real problem is that the Government or an Insurance Company pays a billn which the customer never even sees until after it is paid.
(Most think a $15 co-pay is the cost)

There is no "shopping" like when a consumer buys anything else in America.
Hence the price is no under the control of the natural Laws of Economics.

Then we would see that the doctors pretty much all charg the same fees, based on the collective arguments they have made to the insurance companies concerning what fees are justified and reasonable.

That is actually monopolistic collective bargaining between to representative grouos rather than millions of customers choosing which doctirs and fees they will support with their purchases.

Finally, the business men, (doctors) direct what the custormers must "buy" if they what the cures they are trying to obtain.

This is akin to all Amsricans forced to shop in atge same supermarket where the owners tell the customers what to purchase as they set the price on the food, and someone else pushes the shopping cart to the cashier and pays the bill.

If there is true we ought see this industry accelerating in both size and employment opportunities with prices double the average inflation rate for the counrty, and people earning larger than average salries with great benefits and opportunies for advancement.

 

What do you think they mean when they say de-regulate?

 

It means the insurance companies and doctors would run the healthcare business in the US.

The worst possible outcome.

 

It means insurance companies would actually have to compete with one another instead of having their little state wide monopolies like they have now. It means an insurance company in Florida can sell insurance to someone in Texas which they can't now. It means customers will run the healthcare business as they pick the policies and control which ones stay in business vs which ones go broke with their dollars. That is what it means.

I say also, allow us to buy drugs legal in Canada, which are the same ones that they sell here but cheaper because of copyright laws.

 

Actually, the Government and Insurance Companies have already done the shopping.

That is why in order to get treatment from anything from anything from TriCare and Medicare to Blue Cross and Kaiser-Permanente, you have to go to a doctor that they have already approved. And those doctors and hospitals have already formed payment agreements with those insurers as to what procedures and care will cost.

And sure, you can choose a doctor not on that list. But then there is no guarantee that the bill will be fully covered. Any amount over what the carrier is willing to pay is then paid for by the consumer.

Just look at the number of doctors and hospitals that are almost exclusively HMO providers. This is because of such agreements. And if they (hospitals and doctors) try to charge to much, the insurers remove them from their pre-approved lists and they loose patients.