Apologize to Trayvon's Parents ? Oh Yeah, Right !!!! Pheeeeeeww !!!

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  1. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    Interesting and valuable point. You must be a Law and Order viewer.
     
  2. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    I was talking about FOLLOWING, not guns. As for the gun part, no security guard should ever be unarmed. People shouldn't be risking their lives (and losing them), just to keep multimillionaire property owners from the possibility of being sued.
     
  3. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    One of the reasons that security guards are licensed and bonded. Zimmerman was neither
     
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    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    It might be valuable if it were true. The corner's report on Martin has not been released.
     
  5. protectionist

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    FALSE! Zimmerman had a Florida Concealed Weapons license + plus the training required to obtain that license. And as I said, the guard's life is more important than a "bond", or some millionaire's wish to avoid courtsuits. (sometimes you have to say things twice - no problem).
     
  6. protectionist

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    Shouldn't you question RosePop for a source or link, before you arrive at an assumption of truth or non-truth ?
     
  7. Caroljo

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    And why would Zimmerman bother calling 911 when he was following Martin, if he was out to murder a defenseless black??? He could have just shot him and ran...he'd probably still be free!
     
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    No, really, because the defense doesn't have to prove any of those things and the prosecution can't prove them. The defense does not have to prove Trayvon Martin was the aggressor but the prosecution does have to prove, beyond a resonable doubt, that he wasn't.

    The amazing lack of evidence is why the lynch mob relies on emotion and not evidence.

    I don't know what happened that night in Sanford and only the psychics in the lynch mob, and Mr. Zimmerman, do know. But, the prosecution has to prove what they believe happened beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't believe that can be done.
     
  9. protectionist

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    Good assessment. I agree 100%.
     
  10. Really People?

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    I don't think it's quite so cut & dry honestly...

    Even if Martin is the aggressor, the possibility that he retreated exists, and, if that can be proven, then, it could be shown that Zimmerman didn't need to shoot...

    Just throwin possibliities out...

    Either way, this is all what the trial is for...
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's true. But one thing is for sure, it sure wasn't anything like people tried to make it out to be for weeks. Maybe all these Black leaders should hold the mouth untill more is brought out, instead of always trying to make it a racial issue. They have been proven wrong several times before and it only makes things worse. Gets people worked up and and others hurt for nothing.

    "Maywood, Ill. - Alton L. Hayes III, a west suburban man charged with a hate crime, told police he was so upset about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida that he beat up a white man early Tuesday."
     
  12. RosePop

    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it was mentioned in the bail hearing yesterday, and I don't watch that show, I guess I made it up huh?
     
  13. JohnnyMo

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    I'm convinced that hose is dishonest, so no..
     
  14. RosePop

    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I nominate this statement as not only the most absurd excuse to blame Trayvon for getting murdered by Zimmerman, but the most ridiculous bit of BS faulting black parents for "not raising their children properly"!!

    I guess, for someone like Cessna, its a TERRIBLE PROBLEM if you let black kids keep their cellphones because there might be a LITTLE testimony from someone OTHER than their murderer about what really happened!
     
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  17. James Cessna

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    It sounds like evidence to you because you do not have all the facts.
     
  18. snakestretcher

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    Zimmerman was not a member of any neighbourhood watch, and therefore could not have been 'on duty'. He was acting as a lone vigilante in no official capacity. He also managed to do the exact opposite of all the guidelines for official neighbourhood watch organisations, as laid down by the police including, crucially, going out on patrol armed...
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    And neither do you, I or anyone not directly involved with the events that night. Remind yourself of that the next time you're convinced of someone's guilt.
     
  20. RosePop

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    Yeah, he was. Long established FACT.
     
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    The concept that Zimmerman was acting as a "vigilante" is a complete misconception and is based on no factual standard whatsoever:


    Misconceptions in the Trayvon Martin Case

    This is, of course, based on the other evidence which suggests that Martin doubled back at some point in time to confront Zimmerman, which resulted in the physical altercation. Also, since Zimmerman claimed Martin attacked him and it is up to the prosecution to disprove this, it lends credence to the idea that Zimmerman was actually smart to be armed while on patrol, as this exact situation happened to him and he used his gun to end a threat to his life.
     
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    If Zman was attacked first, then kid deserved it. Sorry, but parents need to teach their kids better.
    If Zman wasn't attacked, then he should be charged with 2nd degree murder and go to jail. His parents should have taught him better in that case.
    And, if Zman was a crimalien, then he needs to go to jail regardless, just because he is criminal scum AND he had a gun in our country.

    I have gone outside to investigate noises on my property in the semi-woods in the middle of the post-midnight morning and took a flashlight and my 45 with me... and if someone was on my property, I would warn to stop and drop, and then if they ran towards me, they would be dead. So, possibly for the grace of God go I rather than Zman?
    Nouf said... on this very unfortunate incident.
     
  23. snakestretcher

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    um, no, he was NOT registered anywhere - especially after the numerous police calls to turn in his neighbors.
     
  25. jthorp24

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    Maybe Martin's mother should apologize for trying to make money over the death of her son.

    You know, the lady who tried patenting "justice for Trayvon."
     

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