Papa John’s To Raise Price Of Pizza Due To ‘Obamacare’

Wow another poster who slaps someone with a label by reading a single post, gee am I shocked.

 

Another point overlooked by a lot of people. We essentially waste tax dollars on keeping corn prices artificially low, then we end up putting it in gas tanks which drives the cost of food up that uses corn (which is everything in America). I am sorry, but the market needs to set prices and it may be 14 cents or a couple percentages higher on this and that but how many people here purchase one item out of their paychecks?

Exactly, you go to the store and you purchase a variety of things and 14 cents here, an extra dollar there and 20 cents, 40 cents and so on everywhere becomes a noticeable chunk of money.

What it all comes down to is that nobody is being insured at affordable rates under ObamaCare, who does not already have insurance. Poor people with children and the elderly already have either State or Federal funded healthcare assistance. The rest of us have it through our jobs or private insurance or none at all.

Those who can't afford health insurance now, and do not qualify for any State or Federal assistance are not going to be insured under obamacare. They still won't be able to afford healthcare and nothing in ObamaCare offers and incentive to lower costs of healthcare. Hospitals, doctors, Ambulances, surgeons, various specialist care providers have not and will not lower their prices.

So they shake down the people who already can't afford healthcare for a tax to pay for those who already have healthcare provided by State and Federal assistance programs. Now, come up with a plan to lower the costs of healthcare and perhaps you have an argument but ObamaCare changes nothing other than the tax that is unavoidable for those who already don't have healthcare, because they will still not receive healthcare under ObamaCare.

 

Lol! What is it with this guy? You are redefining the word healthy now?

Well at least I know where this idiotic notion came from...

Read what, Junior? The part of the website where your little huckster doctor idol tries to pedal vitamins? Yeah. Great source. The guy goes on a sparsely cited rant about how statins are part of a big fincial scam and then say fight them by sending me money. Are these the types of sources you are going to use in medical school? Why not use breitbart.com while you are at it? The quack doctor you are perfoming internet fellatio on is trying to sell people vitamins for $94/month! Was that what you wanted me to read? Sure, I read it.

If your total knowledge of dietary "fats" consists of outmoded ideas and ill informed debates targeted at the lay public by people trying to sell diets and vitamins I could see where you would make that mistake. Trust me my inexperienced friend once you get into the higher echelons of academic study the discussions of dietary fats are far broader and nuanced than a vitamin peddler will ever let the uneducated masses believe. The simplistic model of atherosclerosis much like most science before high school is a gross out dated oversimplification that is fed to kindergarteners. Premed students really should know more than that. To answer your question more directly...





How does a premed student not know this? How? You've gotten owned multiple times in this thread. Are you even a premed student? Or are you a teenager that wants to be a doctor, because "doctors make a lot of money and I like money?" You cannot get into medical school if your idea of a reliable source is a quack doctor's website set up to peddle $94/month worth of vitamins. Really are they teaching students to objectively evaluate sources in school anymore or has the Fox Newsification of America continued unabated?

They must be having a sale on ignorance today. Another right winger that doesn't know there is a global market for oil and gasoline. We make so much excess gasoline we export it. Producing more gasoline will not bring down or stabilize prices in America. We would have to flood the world market with gasoline!

Yes. The Armageddon we were warned about allegedly consists of some fat greazeball in a trailer park having to scrounge up less than three extra nickels to buy something that is slowly destroying his health.

Yes because if you can't afford an $800/month premium that means you can't scrounge up less than three nickels on pizza night. Lol!

 

If people are stupid enough to re-elect this idiot, they deserve the hideous fate that awaits them.

 

The gullibility of RWers is boundless. PapaJohn can do whatever it wants, even claim that their price of pizza will cost more because of the Affordable Care Act. Fine, let them do it.

My point, the airlines created a checked bag fee because of high fuel costs, those extreme costs don't exist anymore, yet the fees still exist. The airlines now charge for meals, aisle or exit row seating. Flights are packed, yet the airlines still lose money even though they are deregulated.

If you are going to buy into the notion, that businesses run on limited margin, you are only fooling yourself.

 

Someone has to pay for Obamacare.

And won't be the Tooth Fairy.

 

And patriotic to you means supporting obamacare? Those who don't aren't patriotic?

 

I never said that. Businesses will raise their prices as much as they CAN. We the People will pay the inflated prices as much as we CAN. it is WE, not the Businesses who must live on a "limited margin." Our income does not go up with each price increases courtesy of Democrats. Therefore just like I previously stated, our standard of living declines regularly BECAUSE of DEMOCRATS!

 

FYI, you just directly linked businessmen to Democrats, both with the price increase and your salary. Get real, no one is that directly link.

I suggest you do your job well, keep improving yourself, and you will get ahead.

 

If you don't like the wages, you can:

a) get yourself an education so that you can earn better wages

and/or

b) start your own pizza or other company and show all those other greedy business owners how it's done.

Of course, you're going to go with:

c) keep sitting on the bench, complaining, whining and criticizing

 

How do you know they are not covered? If they are 26 or younger and not married, they are likely covered by their parents insurance. I would guess most people working at Papa John's are teenagers or in their 20's.

 

Nothing like hitting the poor the hardest. Libs pooh pooh raising costs without realizing it is not the middle class that pays the dearest for their folly.

 

Considering how most non-management workers in the organization are part-time students and young people already covered under their parent's plans, what's the problem?

 

Bingo. The right wing sheep will believe anything a corporation tells them. So what's up righties? How about those baggage fees? I don't see those going down. There's always an excuse.

 

I'm not deathly loyal, I eat pizza and it taste good so I continue to go to the same place. I said I don't think corporations should be involved in politics because that's when I don't trust them, they will do anything to boost profits even going against their own views.

So chill out with your whole speech on what I make because I'm not waging a war with corporations, I just think they should stay out of politics, once again someone completely missed the point of my post.

 

Actually it is over 17% of Americans that are not insured. Where is your data that says most of these are illegal aliens. From someone who works in a state funded, University Hospital that treats the majority of the uninsured in the area, I assure you, it is not mostly illegal aliens that I see. As for your comment that young people don't need full coverage- what exactly do you think they need. Young people get sick too. Young people are actually the victims of far more trauma than older adults due to their careless lifestyle. I can't tell you the number of 18-30 year olds that I see weekly involved is some sort of trauma related incident that don't have coverage.

Low income adults are covered for the most part, Medicaid takes care of them. It is the underemployed (think the housekeeper at the local hotel, the McDonald's worker, the person who rings up your groceries at your local grocery store that don't have coverage. Some of these maybe young mothers trying to support a family.

Now, I will give you 2 examples the I know of personally. First, my uncle. He is slightly retarded (probably on the autism spectrum but never diagnosed). He lived in Florida his whole life with my grandmother. When she died, he retired. He was 62 so he was eligible. Now because he has always been slow, he has worked fairly low paying jobs. BUT he HAS worked and payed taxes, since he was 18. He only get social security which is just over $800 a month. He lives with my parents who basically take care of him. If my parents predecease him then I will "inherit" him. He has no insurance. My mother tried to get him Medicaid but they decided he wasn't eligible and he can't get Medicare until he is 65, which is another 2 years. How fair is that? He has paid his taxes his whole life but he can't even qualify for state insurance even though he is so far below the poverty line he can't even see it.

Second case, a friend of mine at work, her sister was just diagnosed 2 months ago with Stage 4, metastatic colon cancer. He jerk husband, who was self employed, shot himself in the head with a shot gun 2 weeks ago because he couldn't deal with it. They don't know yet if his life insurance will pay out the policy but considering a lot of them don't pay on suicides she may very well be screwed. She has basically been given 1-2 years to live WITH treatment. She has 2 teenagers to worry about well. Now she has to worry about how she is going to survive and pay her medical bills. His insurance policy is payed up until the 31st of this month and then that is it. Even if she can afford insurance, most are not going to touch her due to her preexisting condition. The policy he had was in his company's name which of course has been shut down. So for years, they have been middle class, payed into the system, payed their share and now when she needs it the most she is royally screwed.

It is easy to just say "I don't want to pay 14 cents more a pizza or an extra $32 a year on my taxes (I think I read that is what it will Obamacare will cost taxpayers) but when you see the REALITY of what happens when you don't have insurance, the reality facing people and not the welfare sucking people but people who have actually worked their whole lives and then just get nothing, it is a different story.

I honestly don't understand this nation. People get so fixated on the "I don't want to pay for it" line but they have no problem putting their hand out when they need it. Somewhere along the line we have become very selfish and self serving.

I don't have kids but I have no problem paying into the system so other people's kids can be educated. I know it is good for the country (although at the rate we are going, I am starting to wonder). It is the same difference. If your kids are being educated on the public dime, keep in mind that people like me, with no kids, are contributing to their education. It is for the good of everyone in this country that we do something that covers more people with healthcare coverage. But in the end it averages out.

 

Isn't it just as selfish to expect others to pay for our healthcare?

We are ruining the excellent private healthcare that most Americans enjoy for the sake of a minority of citizens who pay nothing for their healthcare.

 

Sounds like an individual mandate endorsement.

 

It doesn't sound like it to me.

 

An easy way to raise your standard of living is to not eat pizza at all, and save yourself the entire $7.00 x the number of Papa John's pizzas you normally eat in a period of time. But there is one sure-fire was to reduce your standard of living - just let your illnesses go untreated.

 

Our RW brethren's ire is awoken with any mention of a Democrat/Liberal/Gay/Muslim, or anything that does not meet their parochial mindset. Their overreactionary comments are just nonsense on issues like this one.

 

Yes, let's split hairs over a 2% difference, because there's no possible way that they don't actually know the exact number and instead rely on a range of possibilities. Left-wing propaganda has always been shown to be 100% accurate with the facts.

Strawman. I never said "most of these are illegal aliens". I said many are. I said that most of that 15% is between illegals and young people. By even liberal estimations, there are upwards of 20 million illegals in the country, by the way.

That's because you probably live somewhere with very few illegal aliens. Try making that claim in my neck of the woods, where emergency rooms are literally flooded with illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America.

They could purchase catastrophic insurance. They don't need to purchase a full coverage policy that covers all the diseases that a 50-70 year old man would need coverage for. The most common cause of death in young people is accidents (murder for black young people, but that's another story). Serious illness is relatively rare.

Indeed those are sad circumstances, but why am I obligated to pay for it? Why is the cure always for the federal Government to come in with some entitlement pot of cash (that we are going deeply in debt for, by the way) and bail people out of their situations? Is that really the fuction of Government?

Again, most people are already insured. Most of the people who are not are either not supposed to be here in the first place, or they make the choice to spend their money on something else. What's left is a very small percentage of the population who cannot get health care. Do we really need to transform and cripple our current system for everyone (not to mention, continue to bankrupt the country with another entitlement we can't afford) just because some guy online can put up a few sob stories?

People used to have this thing called initiative and personal responsibility. People were a lot more generous back then because they knew the Government wasn't helping people with everyone's tax dollars. That started changing with FDR. Now, people let people rely on the Government, and they are accused of being selfish.

There were numerous suggestions put forth to improve healthcare coverage in the country. The only one that mattered to Obama and Co was the one that guaranteed the most opportunity for a power grab. They got what they wanted. When this experiment crashes and burns, just remember how much your good intentions played into your misguided support for it.

 

Uh-oh, I smell another bail-out coming, this one for the pizza industry. The only thing Papa John deserves is what I am willing to pay him for his pizzas. And I ain't willing.