Voter ID

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Foolardi, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Pangloss

    Pangloss New Member

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    Cherry-picking, and two wrongs making a right. You're also showing evidence of a problem. If we cleaned up voting anomalies, less fraud would be possible, whether it is illegals voting or Evil Snickering Republicans stuffing the ballot box.
     
  2. AnonymouslyMe

    AnonymouslyMe New Member

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    Do you ever have a single clue? Their provisional ballot will not be counted unless they return with an ID within a few days.
     
  3. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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  4. Pred

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    What kind of citizen can't produce a photo ID? I'm waiting?
     
  5. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This was done when they registered. If you're concerned about "voter fraud" then where are the ID experts that have been hired to man each and every precinct? People have been making and using fake IDs since there were IDs. The "solution" fails to solve a problem that does not exist.

    What it will do is deny to American citizens the one right that must exist in any democracy.

    And now that you've denied that right to some at the command of your masters what will you say when your masters decide you cannot vote?
     
  6. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Who can't produce valid photo ID to vote, especially when its given away for free?
     
  7. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cherry picking?

    Republicans (and I might add in both Florida and Ohio the Secretary of State was also bush state campaign chair) demonstrably denying the right to vote to 10's of thousands of people is "charry picking?"

    As I said. You should be ashamed.
     
  8. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not free unless they come to your house and give it to you.

    In several counties in Pennsylvania there is no office for obtaining the ID.
    In several other counties the offices are only open 1 day per week.

    How does an 80 year old person who doesn't drive make a 90 mile round trip to get an for "free?"

    What about people in nursing homes who cannot travel?
    How about people who work 8-5 M-F? Is taking a day off to get the ID, "Free?"
     
  9. AnonymouslyMe

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    You're welcome.
     
  10. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    How do people who work 8-5 not have ID already? Pease explain these full time jobs where the employers don't know who you are? How did these people obtain these weird faceless jobs? How do 80 yr old people stuck in a home vote if they can't leave? Could you introduce me to these people, since we haven't seen video from anyone who wants to vote and is stuck in a home.

    Ah, it's all these hypothetical people who can't vote, hehe.
     
  11. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um... Pardom me Moi.But how come ACORN was sued in 13 states for Voter Registration
    Fraud.Some cases were openly admitted to as in writing in the name Daffy Duck.
    Or Luke Skywalker.ACORN workers admitted they sat around at home and at a
    Seattle library MAKING up names.ACORN was found Guilty in Seattle of 1800 suspect
    voter registration forms.ACORN then did as they usually.Instead of alerting Election
    officials as to any problems { suspect forms} ACORN Threatened to sue them if they
    didn't accept those "suspect" forms.
    Yeah I can see where Registering millions of dead people and cartoon characters
    and people who don't exist CAN be a problem.
    In states w/o photo ID who's to stop those bogus Voter registrations from being
    used by ACORN workers themselves,then of course voting with their own proper
    identity at their polling place.Double voting.
     
  12. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then it's a question of age.Yes,Old people can't do many things in today's society.
    In fact,just look around at all those people in those Rascal motorized chairs.They basically
    can hardly walk.They are limited.Just like a person 90 years old should not be behind
    the wheel of a car.
    You go into any government bldg. and you must go thru metal detactors.
    You go to Vote and you better prove yer Identity.That's the idea behind voting.That
    citizens have a right.You lose that right if a convicted felon in some states.
    One has to prove who they are.Just saying yer so & so ain't gonna cut it.
    That was proven dramatically by Breitbart's James O'Keefe who obtained Eric
    Holder's ballot.That was after Attorney General,Holder bragged ... that there is no proof
    that in-person voter fraud is a problem.
     
  13. AceFrehley

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    It's so easy, even a liberal can understand it.

    People who support voter ID want clean elections. People who oppose voter ID don't. They try to babble about disenfranchised blah blah blah but we all know the truth. Liberals know they need voter fraud to win elections.
     
  14. AceFrehley

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    While you might not consider 153 dead people voting in one county alone in one election alone, normal Americans would disagree.

    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Dead_people_voting
     
  15. AceFrehley

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    You people crack me up. Basically, you're saying that Democrats are such losers, they can't even produce an ID card, while Republicans can.

    Hell, maybe you're right.

    LOL
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Laugh all you want; and no, I'm not saying what you're saying. I can see what's going on and those on the Right... aren't going to talk themselves out of what's coming.

    I think what you suggest is just plain wrong. (Keep on laughing.)
     
  17. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    He was just saying that having to produce a photo-id could tend to keep Democrats from voting. But why would only Democrats be so disenfranchised???

    The answer to that is probably related to the overwhelming number of the non-living that tend to vote Democrat, thanks to the help of Democrat community organizers. Only having living, breathing, and registered voters vote only once in an election would present a bit of a handicap to their cause. In fact, any efforts that might minimize fraud is viewed by Fraudocrats as an attempt to disenfranchise their poor, oppressed constituents. Of course, logic and reason don't apply here. You have entered the REAL Twilight Zone - i.e. the topsy-turvy Liberal world where up is down and right is wrong - that ever creepy and inverted mental world that is Liberalism.
     
  18. AceFrehley

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    Oh, I know you don't intentionally mean to say Democrats are losers. But in practice, that is precisely what you're saying. Oh and what's coming, anyway?

    Thanks, don't mind if I do. ;)
     
  19. AceFrehley

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    BINGO. It's all about the dead vote- well, 90%, anyway. And the fact that the Obama administration is all in opposing voter ID laws shows us the fraud is coordinated from the very top.

     
  20. Johnny-C

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    Okay, AceFrehley... enjoy.
     
  21. Johnny-C

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    You don't WANT to know; it's obvious. The so-called problem which voter ID laws address, is virtually non-existent.

    And no matter what you say here, statistics bear that out.

    Republicans are going to pay a price for what they are trying to do. It is only a matter of time.
     
  22. hiimjered

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    The same argument was used when gun dealers were trying to prevent the requirement for checking IDs before selling guns. Without having an ID and documentation requirement, it is very hard to prove this kind of voter fraud. This will make statistics show very few convictions for this kind of fraud - because it is virtually impossible to prove.

    The fact that someone was able to get someone as famous as Eric Holder's ballot in his place proves that the risk is very real. Only with some real proof of identity can we know for sure that the person voting is the person they claim they are, just like the fact that only by registering ahead of time can we really prove that this person has the legal right to vote.
     
  23. Johnny-C

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    The way they are implementing these laws, is a serious problem.

    There is always a "risk". Even so, why are we applying such a drastic "solution" to a problem that isn't proven to be so great?

    What a waste!
     
  24. hiimjered

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    Good point, but once again, the same could be considered when it came to IDs for firearms. There was no proof that illegal sales of firearms by dealers was a problem, so why should they have enacted stringent firearm ID and documentation laws?

    Each illegal voter disenfranchises every lawful voter. Even a handful of cases of voter fraud invalidates the votes of lawful voters and needs to be stopped. Without such measures voting becomes irrelevant. You can vote, but an illegal voter will counter your vote and render it wasted. In such a situation, why bother voting?
     
  25. The12thMan

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    I doubt that most people know how easy it is to vote (in Texas) these days. Registration requires a full name, address and birthdate. Mailing address can be different. That's it. If you don't have a drivers license number or SS number to put on the registration, no biggie. Your registration is tagged with "ID", so you do have to show something at the polling place. No worries there. They accept "official" mail from the govt, copy of a utility bill, copy of a paycheck or govt check, or even a copy of a bank statement... pretty much anything with your name and address on it. We all know how ridiculously easy it is to fake any of these things nowadays. But nobody would do that.
     

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