Boston Bombing Confirms Need for Street Cameras

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  1. protectionist

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    You are part of the law-abiding majority. The loons in this thread who are speaking against the street cameras, are CRIMINALS who simply don't want the cameras, catching them in their illegal acts. They put on a little show here, but all they do is make complete (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s out of themselves.
     
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    You have only one problem,. You're a cheap 2 bit low-down, SCUMBUCKET, MOTHER(*)(*)(*)(*)IN, Worthless, piece of trash CRIMINAL. So why don't you come right out and admit it ? (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) !! I'll answer that - because you're also a gutless coward. And you're worse even than this worthless forum.

    You think you're fooling anybody here ? We know what you're up to. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you've already been caught (by a street camera quite likely), and your criminal ass is sitting in a prison right now. And all your phony make-believe ideology doesn't cut it either. You just want to be able to commit your crimes, and get away with them, that's all, and we're not going to let you. I wish I saw you committing one of those crimes. I'd nail your punk ass, and drag you to jail by your nose.
     
  3. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    No, we want privacy. We don't want the government lookign over our shoulders deciding whether what I'm doing, even if legal, is "wrong". How long until they'd begin blackmailing people, locking people up for doing something that "might" be suspicious, or gathering personnal information they can blackmail you with or sell to people?

    And until you can actually prove any of us are criminals, that claim is baseless.
     
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    MORON!!! YOU DON"T HAVE privacy in a public place. PUBLIC places (streets, parks, buildings, stores, etc) are not private. They are PUBLIC. Get it ?

    And "the government" is us - the people. Didn't you know ? So what's your problem ? You a criminal too ?

    I don't give me that "how long until" crap. That can be said about anything. No, that doesn't fly, crime-lover. You just proved you're a criminal, yourself. Nice job, looneytune.
     
  5. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    You're a fascist blowhard is what you are. You are intentionally ignoring the implications of permitting unrestricted suveillance of the public.

    You're the kind of person who would have stopped the founding of the USA, because those people DID value liberty over their lives, thats why they died by the thousands to establish liberties you are now going to willy-nilly throw out FOREVER so a few people won't get blown up. At the expense of turning America into even more of a police state.

    People like you, who won't fight to keep liberties, are the people who let authoritarians take control so no one gets hurt. People like you allow dictatorships to succeed.
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Are there a lot of paranoid people on these threads?
     
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    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    You will allow the USA to become an aithoritarian state. Mark my words.

    And you still can't prove I'm a criminal. Keep spouting that though, it makes you look even more like some angry, blabbering idiot.

    I was going to keep personnal attacks out of this but considering the insulting vitriol you keep hurling at me I think I've earned the right to retort in kind.
     
  8. protectionist

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    All you "did" was put my post in your quote, and then put a NON-RESPONSE in below it. You did NOT respond to the post. You punked out. And the only hand you're holding, is your prison guard's after he helps you get up off the floor, after kicking your ass for 200th time.
     
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    NO! Privacy comes first!
     
  10. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    History is on my side. Dictatorships succeed when the populace doesn't resist because no one wants to get hurt. When they fight, they usually win - examples: American Revolution, Syria today, Yugoslavia in WW2, etc.
     
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    It does appear that way. Criminals usually are quite paranoid.
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you are paranoid. Street cameras does not lead to dictators.
     
  13. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely. Haven't you seen the people calling for draconian measures because they think they'll be killed by terrorists any second now? They have a better chance of being struck by lightning and don't even start on their chances of dying in a fiery automobile crash. I wonder how these people even manage to leave their houses in the morning.
     
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    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    No. Have you, paranoid?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because you either didn't like or couldn't understand my response doesn't mean that I didn't respond. BTW, what's with all of these prison fantasies of yours? It seems a bit odd, to say the least.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read the thread, sporty.
     
  17. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    You are insane. Constant surveillance is a perfectly normal "hallmark" of absolutely free societies,and in fact, it makes us even MORE FREE, by helping to keep us free from the CRIMINALS, who are a far greater threat to us, and oppressive upon our freedom than the government, which is merely us ourselves, actin in our own interests.

    You problem is you haven't figured out who the good guys and bad guys are. That's your problem. Not mine.
     
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    Just because I didn't like your response (and I understood it perfectly well) doesn't mean that you responded to my post. Of course you didn't respond to it. You said nothing at all about the post (the 2 people killed in absence of cameras), and just changed the subject (AKA "punked out"). As for the prison, that's where you live.

    PS - I just noticed the flag indicating where you reside. Well, since you're in some little two-horse country somewhere, and not in the USA, than you shouldn't even be commenting in this thread, which is about street cameras needed in America. So this thread is my business, the American people's business, and none of yours.

    And Djiboutil. Middle East, huh ? And your president's name is Mohammed (same as the infamous Mo the Pedophile who got Islam started). So, you're not only a criminal. You're a Muslim terrorist too, huh ? yeah, well you saw what happens to those uncivilized, barbaric savages, when they come here and blow up their bombs. They wind up dead on a slab in the morgue, with no one coming around to claim their worthless body. :flagus: :machinegun: :evil: :bomb:
     
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    FALSE! Are you a terrorism expert ? The real terroism experts are predicting a nuclear terrorist event to occur in the US this summer, possibly in as many as7 different major cities in America, which would killed tens of millions of people in a minute, and tens of millions more within 2 weeks from radiation.

    <<< Mod Edit: Personal Attack >>>
    As for the scary bearded brown men in caves in some REMOTE DESERT waiting, and plotting ways to nuke America - yeah, they're still some of them out there, as well as in cities in every continent on the planet, including some of your neighbors, quite possibly. No doubt about it. You never heard of "American Hiroshima" ? Get your head out of the sand.

    http://w3.newsmax.com/a/summerattack...code=2A89-1%A0

    http://www.govloop.com/profiles/blog...ican-hiroshima

    http://www.stopdoomsday.com/

    In the book The Day of Islam,, Dr. Paul Williams goes into great detail about the plan of al Qaeda to blow up nuclear bombs al over America. Williams maintains that al-Qaida is not content on blowing up one nuclear device or a "dirty" nuke &#8212; al-Qaida wants to explode real nuclear devices in seven U.S. cities simultaneously.

    Williams says these cities are New York, Washington, D.C., Las Vegas, Miami, Boston, Houston, and Los Angeles.

    Mueller seems to confirm this claim of multiple attacks, saying both New York and Washington would be likely targets. Already Williams says the U.S. government has Washington webbed by "choke" points to detect nuclear material.

    For many Americans, the threat of al-Qaida's nuclear ambitions begins in the time after the horrific 9/11 attacks.

    But as Williams shows so clearly, al-Qaida has been devising its nuclear plan since the early 1990s &#8212; and the U.S. government and other intelligence services have been well aware of al-Qaida's plan.

    For example, Williams quotes Michael Scheuer, a senior CIA official who headed the agency's bin Laden unit.

    Scheuer admitted the CIA "found that [bin Laden] and al-Qaida were involved in an extraordinarily sophisticated and professional effort to acquire weapons of mass destruction &#8212; in this case, nuclear weapons; so, by the end of 1996, it was clear that this was an organization unlike any other one we had ever seen."

    Remember, Scheuer is describing the period before 9/11, proving again that bin Laden had been investing enormous time, resources, and money into getting nuclear weapons for more than 10 years.

    Bin Laden and his adherents believe this nuclear cataclysm will usher in "The Day of Islam," the dream of radical Muslims to see all of humankind fall in submission before the throne of Allah as the "Great Satan," America, is brought to her knees.

    Williams is not surprised at all that bin Laden has planned to launch such nuclear attacks, suggesting his delay is consistent with his past pattern of activities. For sure, it is a plan that has been long in its hatching.

    Based on the "forgotten testimony" of the FBI's "Confidential Source One," as well as other sources, Williams first presents evidence of bin Laden's purchase of highly enriched uranium in Sudan and nuclear devices from the Chechens and the Russian Mafia.

    He then offers further information on the workings of Pakistani scientists and technicians from the A.Q. Khan Research Facility to maintain and upgrade al-Qaida's "bespoke nukes" (with explosive yields in excess of 10 kilotons) for the "American Hiroshima."

    Williams explosive revelations are even more worrisome because they are not simply backed up by speculation and anonymous sources, they are sourced with government reports and comments made "on the record" by top officials.

    Among the explosive revelations in "The Day of Islam" are these >>>

    In 1996, al-Qaida's "paymaster" and a top lieutenant for bin Laden walked into a U.S. embassy in Africa and spilled the beans on the terror group's activities &#8212; including that al-Qaida had purchased nuclear material in the Sudan
    The incredible story of a Brooklyn, N.Y., mosque that was receiving "stipends" from Uncle Sam for more than $2 million a year up until 1993 &#8212; when it was discovered the mosque was the nerve center for the first attack on the World Trade Center
    The fact that despite the hoopla about the war on terror, only one member of bin Laden's shura &#8212; or high command &#8212; has been killed
    The case of a Chicago charity that raised millions for bin Laden and even paid for one of his operatives whose sole job was to acquire nuclear weapons
    Evidence the Saudi intelligence service claims bin Laden has an arsenal of between 40 and 70 tactical nuclear weapons
    Russian sources that claim bin Laden bought 12 to 15 fully assembled nuclear weapons
    Ties between al-Qaida and the Chechen rebels who allegedly acquired nuclear suitcase devices
    Bin Laden's claim to a Pakistani journalist two months before 9/11 that acquiring nuclear was "not difficult" &#8212; claiming they were available from Russia for between $10 million and $20 million
    Author Tom Clancy's revelations he was "first bemused, then stunned" to find how easy it is for a wealthy person to develop a nuclear device equal to that dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    How atomic blueprints are available from Amazon.com!
    Evidence bin Laden spent between $60 and $100 million to build nuclear devices with the help of scientists from Pakistan, Russia, and China
    The damage even a low yield "junk" nuclear device would do to New York &#8212; with an estimated 250,000 dead in several days
    The remarkable story of two British secret agents who penetrated al-Qaida's camps in Afghanistan &#8212; and reported to Britain that the terror group was finishing work on radiological weapons
    The stunning admission of the head of Britain's MI5 who confirmed that "renegade" scientists had provided al-Qaida with the knowledge they needed to build a nuclear device
    New Jersey: the strange case of a Pakistani who died of radiological poisoning soon after 9/11, a man who had apparently served as a "mule" to transport the deadly material into the U.S.
    Axis of Evil: the secret alliance between al-Qaida and Iran that brings together two religious groups with one common goal: destroying the U.S.
     
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    Say what you want... "items" that are widely misused or represent a potentially significant threat, WILL be handled differently. I've seen it before.

    It's not fear, it's survival and even protection of the public. (Use your head.)
     
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    I'd like to know more about the double standard on this forum, where some people can bait, flame and insult as much as they want with apparent immunity while reporting others for the same.

    This thread is a prime example.

    Anyone?
     
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    Nothing wrong with cameras in public, little creepy but mainly if paranoid that the Obamanation wants to check our nose boogers, ass, or boobs. I still reserve the right to run around outside naked during hurricanes when everyone is supposed to be evacuated; I have a certain expectation of privacy then.
     
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    The government certainly is not. It was intended to be but it is not. Constant surveillance is a hallmark of authoritarian police states, not free societies. If you want a free society, you must accept that people will abuse it. If you can't, don't live in one. Criminals are peanuts compared to the power of the government. You must be suspicious and critical of your government at all times or it will take advantage of you. Ask the Germans 80 years ago.

    I DO NOT CARE if constant surveillance MIGHT save me from a crime. My liberty and everyone else's is more important in the long run. If you don't agree then I hope you have fun in your police state - I want no part of it.
     
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    You really can't help making up stuff to back your ridiculous position.
     
  25. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    What did I just make up? And what is ridiculous about not wanting to be watched 24/7?
     

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