Boston Bombing Confirms Need for Street Cameras

That street cameras lead to dictatorship. "Constant surveillance is a hallmark of authoritarian police states, not free societies" There is no constant surveillance unless you live on the the street. If you are out in public, you cannot have an expectation of privacy. Your fellow citizens could be watching you with their own cameras or phones.

 

OMGurdz!! We're all gonna' die!!

LMAO! "The real terrorism experts say..." and here are 3 crap links proving it! lol

 

Sorry, pal. You'll never succeed in banning pressure cookers or metal balls, no matter how scared you become. If you have that much fear then go live out in the desert or something but leave my rights alone.

 

What is ridiculous about it is >> for about the 15th time >> the cameras are not seeing anything more than what hundreds of people in the street are seeing. You're no more being watched by the camera, or a security guard monitoring it, than you are by the people who are out in the street with you. They see you, and their memories remember you years later. So what the hell do you care about a camera or its recorder ?
<<< Mod Edit: Personal Attack >>> In the public streets (or in parks, public bldgs, stores, etc) you are in PUBLIC. You don't have privacy there, or any expectation to have privacy there. GET IT ?????????????

 

It was people with cell phones and observant citizens that did the most.

 

Nobody is insulting the opponents of street cameras in this thread, more than themselves. I've never seen such pathetically, absurd posts in 3 years in this forum.

 

After 2 or 3 days of delay, which wouldn't have been if street cameras were in place, recording. As i said in the OP >> " The authorities instead listen to the ACLU moronic loonies, and right now are asking the public for cell phone videos or snapshots taken at the time of the bombings. Shouldn't have to be asking for that, you guys! You should already have those videos, and if the cameras were in place, it's possible the bombings might never have happened. At the very least, you'd in good position to go after the dirtbags who did this, instead of fumbling about, as you are now.

And fumble about they did for 3 days, without having street camera recordings. In fact if they had those street cameras there, they could have gotten the Tsarnaevs instantly, and the bombing might never even have occured. And if they did occur, the brothers could have been caught immediately, instead of 3 days later, could have been caught without a police chase and gunfight which endangered a lot of people, and MIT Officer Sean Collier would still be alive. And the evidence (backpack, fireworks, and laptop) would still be present.

The people's cellphones were just luck and a last resort, not as substitute for street cameras. See Post # 91 - Two situations now going on, where nobody's cell phone or observant citizen has been any help (but the street cameras would have been).

 

If you have that much fear of street cameras, they YOU can go live out in the desert (or stay inside your house), but leave my rights to be safe alone. And keep your nose out of America's business, Mr. foreigner.

 

Most people don't give (*)(*)(*)(*) what I'm doing, and they have it in their heads, not on permanent record. This is the government: if you trust them to NEVER abuse that surveillance power you're so willing to give them, you're just another one of those shmucks who gets conned into letting the government do whatever it wants. You trust the government too much - they've abused their power before, they do it to this day, and they will do it in the future, and the more we can prevent that the better. If you don't think they'll abuse it, you're ignorant of history and of reality.

And you underestimate how much people hate being watched all the time. I DARE you to make a poll and actually prove people on here would like being watched by the government 24/7. Do it. PROVE ME WRONG.

 

Maybe in your country, the government is "THEM". In the USA, WE the people, are the government. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. The cameras are put there by us, and for us. You are not even close to having a handle on this subject. You're lost on it.

If we did a poll using your mentality of the government being some authortarian entity, separate from the people (rather than we the people ourselves), then we might get the results you think. But if we phrased it the way it really is >> OUR cameras WE put in place to protect OURSELVES, then likely, people would be happy to have the protection.
Since it is your idea, why don't YOU do the poll ..? >> using the wording I described, Go ahead. It's your idea.

 

Really? What loonies believe the islamofascists have enough plutonium to make that many weapons? The DemocRATs have been dismantling US nuclear weapons like crazy, are you suggesting we should demand an inventory?

 

You really can't help ignoring the history of socialism in the 20th Century. Socialism has a tendency to precipitate dictatorships, and dictators just LOVE tattooing everyone, reading their mail, searching their houses, their cars, their bodies, and INTRUDING everywhere.

It's what they do.

 

But IT IS religious in nature.

Socialism is a religion, and the most devout socialists don't even realize they don't make any sense.

 

Why do you ask me a question that I've already answered ? Read the whole post + the links, including the book The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams and then you won't be coming in here asking needless questions.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic (Street Cameras). Please refrain from being OFF TOPIC.

 

waaaaaaaaayyy off topic!!

 

There were a bazillion cameras in the hands of just about everyone there, and they even got photos of the socialist pair doing their duty for Obama.

Is there a need for a handful of "official" cameras when there were thousands of high-quality imagers in use, cameras which captured the little socialists in the act?

No, there's no need.

Given that there were thousands of cameras present, explain how the presence of cameras will prevent the next time some anti-American socialists decide to do something nasty.

Oh, you can't, because people on missions who's end result is death aren't stop by recording gadgets.

What would stop such events from muslim terrorists is to SCRUTINIZE muslim immigrants with a microscope, and if an immigrant "becomes" muslim, probe him all over again.

You people refuse to admit it, but an immigrant is someone here with our permission, on our sufferance, and we do reserve the right to kick their asses out if they don't measure up. An illegal alien is not an immigrant, he's a criminal.

 

No, the government is not the people.

The government is supposed to respect the Constitution first and serve the wishes of the people second.

 

Nonsense. If something is enough of a threat, it WILL be controlled. Doesn't take a deep genius to see that.

 

The DemocRATs haven't been controlled yet.

 

HA HA HA.. See folks ? See what happens when somebody comes in late to a thread, obviously not having bothered to read all the previous posts which already refute his new information.

EARTH TO MAYOR SNORKUM: Your post # 157 was refuted 2 days ago by my post # 91. Try reading the thread before you come tumbling in here making a fool out of yourself. Here's reprint of post # 91.

We sure do need them. >> EVERYWHERE.

Two examples : (among thousands of others)

1. Jessica Lynn Heeringa - missing from Norton Shores, Michigan gas station she worked in. Police have no leads. But they would have IF street cameras had been present.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/04/30...w-her-abductor

2. Leila Fowler - an 8 year old girl in Valley Springs, CA was killed in her house. Some witnesses said they saw someone leaving the house, but no good identifications could be made. They would have been if cameras had been present.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...old-is-sought/

Did you think I was just talking about the Boston Marathon ? I'm talking about street cameras being needed everywhere. Like outside the Norton Shores, Michigan gas station where Jessica Lynn Heeringa was abducted from. And the street outside the house of Leila Fowler where her killer ran out unseen.

There weren't any "thousands of cameras present" there were there ? Fact is, there wasn't even one camera or cellphone present there, and that's why the police in both places are stumped, and the criminals are still on the loose. Are you getting this now ?

As for the immigrants, the only thing I disagree with you about them, is that I'd say they shouldn't have ever been allowed into the country in the first place - especially Muslims.

 

You mean NO ONE had a camera at the finish line of the Boston Marathon?

That's unusual.

Almost as unusual as you being able to ever win any kind of argument.

 

That is a tricky one. I understand the argument both ways. Photographs can help expose the truth, prove corruption, uncover abuse from law enforcement.

But on the other hand, they can also be abused, taking away personal privacy, putting their private life on public display.

Taking photographs of someone is not exactly the same issue as installing cameras everywhere in public places. My thoughts on the issue are that it is okay to install cameras in certain high traffic commerical areas, but generally I would be very concerned if cameras were installed monitoring every residential area. We do not want to live in a 1984 totalitarian state.

 

Of course government (in theory 100%, and in practice mostly) is the people. Government of the people, by the people , for the people. Where did YOU go to school ?

The Constitution is merely part of the government which is a tool creation of the people.

Watch the Congressional hearings on Benghazi next Wednesday, May 8. They will be controlled to some degree.

 

NO, I didn't think that, or anything even related to that, as every reader here is plainly seeing. lol Can you read ? Try reading Post # 162 all over again. Maybe this time a little slower. In fact, you might try reading it 2 or 3 times, if necessary (hopefully with your thinking cap on).

 

To equivocate street cameras being everywhere in public, with a 1984 totalitarian state is a huge stretch. The George Orwell book displayed a great deal of quite negative things that have nothing to do with street cameras in public areas.