Golden Dawn Head Assaults Athens Mayor

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  1. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Who are defendibg them?
     
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    Progressives are happy to have left wing terrorists indoctrinate students at school.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    WTF? Grow up. Really.
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    Me.

    If someone twatted Cameron and Osbourne I would vote for them in an instant.

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    Cheap swipe with the last line, as well.

    Esp when, if you read the thread, a 'certain member' is the one that has used thuggish and violent rhetoric.
     
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    While not supporting the ideology of those group we are talking about a country where the unemployment rate is skyrocketting and the wage rate have been reduced by more than 50% in 5 years.

    This is getting hopeless people are starving. And here we got a group just like the orthodox church and Syriza is giving food.
    Unless i'm informed otherwise. They didn't stole this food.
    As part of their right to dispatch it as they want, they are giving the supplies under their conditions ( here the condition is to have a Greece ID card )
    I also found an GD side explanation of what occured :
    Video in greek


    Trying to find first hand vids are going to be difficult, but make sure you try to dig a bit deeper than "they are evil shaved head".

    Also, quick question to PF people, if you had your food budget cut in half, would you rather starve, steal or resort to the charity even from political party you don't support ?
    I'm quite sure that mothers with children are not fanatical GD members, but the Greece is being sold out by their elite and the austerity keep going on because of debt taken 10 years ago without the consent of the people.

    A student from Greece told me last week that "one day, a politician is going to get killed that can't go on. "
    He didn't had much info but this is forcasting :
    According to this article "Mercenaries are protecting the greek gov"]

    I'm quite sure that the government should do better stuff than put down by force a food handout. This is actually legitimizing golden dawn as their claim " The government is against the people"

    While this may be pessimistic, Greece is just 10 year ahead south euro countries. Starving people isn't a good plan to rule them.

    In this condition, just like any private organization they have the right to give the food to whoever they seems fitted, let them be their own members, or persons with ID card. If the people ( the voters) disagree with them they should be down soon enough
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people who are defending Golden Dawn and voting for them, are the people Golden Dawn protects so they won't be killed when they go to cash their social security checks, not to mention the people who had to put barbed wire around their homes because iron shutters and five bolt locks doesn't do it.

    Here Britain is complaining about a few Albanians coming in illegally during the Kosovo war. Well how would they like it if one tenth of their population consisted of migrants that were shipped in deliberately from Turkey, or criminals from Albania with new names and passports.

    Since the Europeans are the ones complaining about Golden Dawn, then why don't they protect the migrants and open their doors and let them in? They certainly can afford it a lot better than Greece can right now. Instead they passed a law in Europe that if they leave Greece, they are to be sent right back.

    Ankara is now insisting on a mosque in Athens for the illegals, yet Ankara doesn't have even one Christian Church. When the Christians asked for permission to build a church on a plot of land, it was denied. They now decided to build a super mosque on exactly the same property, even though there are five thousand mosques in Ankara. :steamed:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To get a few things straight. Eighty percent of the people being fed by the Greek Church are migrants. The government also has soup kitchens that feeds everyone, after all most of the migrants are not criminals. Most of them were deceived by the Turkish human traffikers and went through hell to get into Europe, so there is no excuse for what Golden Dawn is doing.

    If anyone is to blame it is Europe for ignoring the situation for so many years in order to protect their darling Nato member Turkey. They know that Turkey will not accept the migrants back even though they signed an agreement to do so. Once when Greece sent back a boat with migrants they were found floating in the sea. I mean we're talking about a nation with one of the worse human rights record in the world. Recently a Czech helicopter pilot who was guarding the borders was shocked to see Turkish police directing the migrants towards Greece.

    In addition, this year alone 360 forest fires started in Greece the day the trade winds started blowing and they know it's sabotage. There were continuous fires on the island of Chios which destroyed much of their livlihood, and yet eight miles across the Aegean in Turkey there were no fires.
     
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    LOL

    Since when are socialists the "extreme-right"?
     
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    more lies by the jewish supremacists and the left winged terrorists, The testimony that reveals who hurt the 12 year old girl

    (*)Not even half a day passed and the lies they tried to pass as truth went down the drain. According to info from the Press, the cops that protected the Mayor (and didn't wore their uniforms) have confessed their guilt for the injury of the 12yo girl, which was pinned on MP George Germenis. The Media reports:


    (*)"The two guards of the mayor of Athens have testified about the clash with the MP of the Golden Dawn. According to info, they said that the girl was injured during the clash. They said that in their effort to immobilize Germenis, the girl was injured."

    (*)The MP didn't hit neither the mayor, nor the girl. The Golden Dawn is confirmed once again, and the road of Justice to condemn those that attacked the MP is open. Like they themselves confessed, the result of their illegal attack was the injury of the 12yo child. Lets see what the TV news will say about this update. Will they speak the truth or will they turn a blind eye?


    "Source:(*)http://www.newsbeast.gr/society/arthro/527800/katethesan-oi-astunomikoi-tou-kamini-/
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    what do you jewish supremacists and left winger have to say about the bombings of over 20 gd offices,many which had children in them,shows how desperate they are getting ,you grubs support terrorism from syriza and the commies,its not GD commiting these terrorist acts and stopping food from getting to starving people,you should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting low lifes which every single person against GD are
     
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    "Terrorism"?? dude stop trying to impress foreigners with fat words .
    KKE or Syriza have nothing to do with the anarchists , XA is knifing people in the metro because of their "wrong color" .
     
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    What is XA?
     
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    Your hyperbole is hysterical, and I mean hysterical in the deranged sense, not funny. If you would look at history, you will find that Nationalism is a requisite tenet for a society to remain strong, and that it tends to rear its head most strongly in direct proportion to its threatened extinction.

    Golden Dawn are Greeks for Greece. They are tired of the dilution of their culture through the insanity of diversity. Look for these groups to grow in status and kiss the multicultural stupidity goodbye.
     
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    What an idiotic post. Tell me how well nationalism worked out in Germany under Hitler, or any other fascist dictatorship which cared nothing for their people, and only cared about their own survival, by any means. Instilling fear of reprisal in the population is a classic method of controlling the people. Violence, thuggery, and intimidation of any opposition is another. You want to see that? Because that appears to be Golden Dawn's speciality. No wonder four of GDs members of parliament are facing criminal prosecution.
    Nazis are scum; brain-dead scum and we fought a world war to rid the planet of the filth. Hysterica hyperbole? Ask those who had to live under Nazi rule how hysterical it was. http://www.channel4.com/news/golden-dawn-film-greek-police-probe-neo-nazi-hate-speech
     
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    It would have worked out fine for Hitler, but he was vastly outnumbered and he made a lot of errors in prosecuting the war.

    Get over the Hitler stuff. It's goofy.
     
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    Have you had a look at our Parliament of late?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It never works out 'fine' for murderous megalomaniacs. They tend to get dealt with-take Ceausescu as a recent example.
     
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    A bit of fraud here and there? Yeah, really serious stuff Jack. Next time the LibDems take to the streets in torchlight parades, start beating up Muslims and Jews and hold rallies with fascist salutes, be sure and let us know.
     
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    It does.

    How many Jewish megalomaniacs have breezed right through the Israeli Gov, down the years?

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    Not just fraud. Sex crimes too. Perhaps rape.
     
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    What you fail to grasp (or refuse to admit) is that a country's people need a sense of National Identity, they want that. The further diluted a culture becomes, the more people start to strike back against the loss of their sovereignty.

    If you want to reduce the chance of a new Adolf rising from the ashes of diversity, stop pushing the third-world immigration crap and stop demanding people be just fine with Pakistanis overrunning England. You are sowing the seeds for the crop you most fear. Use your frickin head. Unbelievable.
     
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    I live in Britain and I don't see anyone being 'overrun' by Pakistanis or anyone else, frankly. Come and see for yourself-or continue listening to right-wing racist propaganda. Your choice.

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    Keep deflecting Jack and stop playing games. You know very well that Golden Dawn model themselves on the Nazis whom you seem to admire.
     
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    HUh ? Are you sure "not even one christian church in Ankara . Some years ago ,on a quickie bsiness visit to Ankara - I thought I passed a Church . Not being certain , I checked and found this at wiki :

    :The Anglicans in Turkey form part of the Eastern Archdeaconry of the Diocese of Gibraltar in Europe. In 2008 the Bishop of Europe, Geoffrey Rowell caused controversy by ordaining a local man to minister to Turkish speaking Anglicans in Istanbul]

    The main churches are at Ankara (St Nicholas), Istanbul (Christ Church) and Izmir (St John the Evangelist).

    besides :Today the Christian population of Turkey includes an estimated 45,000 Armenian Apostolic[, 17,000 Assyrian- Syriac Orthodox, 8,000 Assyrians of the Chaldean Catholic, 3,000-4,000 Greek Orthodox, and smaller numbers of Bulgarians, Georgians, and Protestants.

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    Your claim that Ankara is [B]"insisting "[/B] - sounds like a bit of exaggeration on yr part. The situation is far more complex than you indicate.

    In 2006 - "Plans for the first mosque in Athens since Turkish rule under the Ottoman empire have been given the go-ahead by the Greek parliament.

    Over recent years immigration has brought hundreds of thousands of Muslims to the Greek capital.

    But while freedom of worship is guaranteed by Greece's constitution as a member of the European Union, proposals for a new mosque have proved controversial in a country whose population is 96% Greek Orthodox.

    There are mosques dating from Ottoman times in the old part of Athens known as Plaka. The Fethiye or victory mosque dates back to 1458. But today these buildings are for tourists not for Muslim prayers. One is now a museum of Greek folk art.

    Athens is the only EU capital without a purpose-built place of worship for its Muslim population
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    Professor George Moustakis represents a different face of orthodoxy - a campaigner for interfaith understanding who joined a petition in favour of a mosque 17 years ago.

    "I've always opposed the connection of church and state here in Greece, which has meant the church took the decision about other denominations and other faiths and their buildings for worship," he says.
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    "Parliament has now voted and the church lost that privilege. So there is no problem about the mosque, the government supports it, so does the Orthodox Church."

    With the church veto gone and support from the current centre-right government, Naim El Ghandour -- is the man coordinating plans for a new mosque to be built in the north of Athens.

    "The Muslims of Athens are Greek tax-payers and we have a right to pray in a respectful building," ."

    READ MORE : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5190256.stm

    . 2013 - " Athens Mayor George Kaminis said the pending opening of the first official mosque in Greece, being built in Athens by the government, will pave the way for more, as many as two or more in each district of the city, spreading the influence of Islam.

    During a meeting of the city’s council, Kaminis, a supporter of the mosque that some critics, such as the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party and some Greek Orthodox Church officials are trying to block, defend the construction “for obvious reasons of political equality and defense of the right to free exercise of religion” but also “for practical reasons, in order to put in order the irregular creation of such informal places


    http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/04/05/athens-mayor-says-more-mosques-coming/

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